[talks-uk] Re: N86
- From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Talks-Uk Email group <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:55:20 +0000
Hi Guys
This is kind of verging on opinionated rants about play now! Let's not argue
on this people - the OP asked a question and some of us suggested retailers
to review for purchasing from and that is now done, right?
Play.com are based in Jersey which I believe is not part of the UK which is
why they are not liable for VAT/Duties.... They do however occasionally
prepay the duties on small value purchases as a gesture of good will and
trust me - they do not have to do this. They suggest a value of £18 for
guidance and anything over this is purchased on the risk that duties/vat are
payable (although because of their kindness it isn't always the case but
don't rely on this)
A lot of electronics and mobile phones for example are not liable for
customs duty but could be liable for vat because from Play.com (or anyone in
Jersey etc such as one of the partners amazon works with for music cd's
comes from Jersey) goods would be entering into the UK (Which is different
from the British Isles)
So basically.... Play are being generous in pre-paying taxes if anyone has
received an item from them over £18 and not been charged by Royal Mail for
taxes because play do not have to do this, but be careful because items over
£18 are liable for the extra charges and you could end up with a note from
Mr or Mrs Posty saying you have to pay before we can release blah blah blah
(plus they would levee a fee for the processing pleasure too!)
Here's a bit from the play.com T&C's -
If your delivery address is outside of Jersey, you may be subject to import
duties and taxes, which are levied once a shipment reaches your country. Any
such additional charges for customs clearance must be borne by you. You
should note that customs policies vary widely from country to country;
Play.com advises each customer to contact their local customs office for
further information.
Please note that when shipping products internationally, you should be aware
that cross-border shipments are subject to opening and inspection by customs
authorities.
So on a final thought (Much like Jerry Springer) - play are great and
helpful but for expensive items always check if the item can be purchased
within the UK at the same price just to be on the safe side.
And yes my job is arranging import freight which is partly why I know this
but also because I am cautious when I first purchase from a company so I
remember this from when play first started up (or you can just call me sad
too - I'm not bothered!)
Hope this clears up any confusion and we can now enjoy a big group hug?? :-)
come on Darren you know you want to join in the hug too mate <Big squeezey
hug for all> oh and <Big happy smiles>
:-) or :) depending on your preference he he he
Cheers
Pete
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 21/11/2009 1:00 pm
Right. But if it was based on the mainland it wouldn't be operating that way
which is really the point. Because it's in jourzey which is a tax haven it
can opperate in that way. I'm not sure if you still can but people would set
up high interest bank accounts in jourzey because it used to be a legal tax
dodge.
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 21 November 2009 12:54
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
Hi.
No, the reason that Play is so popular with punters is its what you see is
what you pay pricing policy, its fast turnaround, free delivery, excellent
customer service by phone and email, the easy to navigate website, wide
range of product etc etc.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:52 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
Well right exactly. I didn't think it was right. 1 of the biggest selling
points of play is the fact that it's VAT exempted because of where it is.
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 21 November 2009 09:05
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
Hi.
You won't be charged any extra for purchasing items over the £18 mark. Play
is responsible for purchasing the items and paying taxes, the prices you see
on the website will be the prices you pay. I've purchased phones and other
things costing well over £18 in the past and have never experienced a
problem. Considering play are the second-most popular retailer in the UK, I
would think that they know how to operate a sound business and inform
customers of any changes to tax and customs regulations.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:36 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
That's interesting because it's still part of British territory so I don't
really understand why you'd be charged for customs duty if it's in UK
territory.
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of DurDevil
Sent: 20 November 2009 18:26
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
hi Darren, yes they are based there so anything over about £18-20 purchased
from there is technically a import and so is liable for customs duties.
Anything massively over this cost and you could end up with a shock due to
extra costs. Fine for dvds and cds or anything cheap though. Hope this
helps. Cheers Pete )
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 20/11/2009 5:51 pm
Play are based in jourzey. That's why there's no VAT because jourzey is a
tax haven.
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of DurDevil
Sent: 20 November 2009 17:50
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
Also amazon have it for same price as play. Be careful with play as if the
item is expensive you could pay customs duty because they are overseas
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
Date: 20/11/2009 4:28 pm
Hi.
Try play.com which offer free delivery or expansis if you need it next day.
Those are the two websites I mainly use for mobiles and accessories.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carol Pearson
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
So, anyone know the best place for getting the N86 unbranded and not tied
to any network, please?
--
Carol
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---- Original Message ----
From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:16 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
> Dean,
>
> Yes, internet and e-mail are the only issues with the
> N86. You should note though that the internet does work
> in a limited fashion, you only cannot type inedit fields
> or select combo boxes. But you can surf the net. And
> click on links.
>
> Neil Barnfather
> TalkNav
>
> TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and
> authorized distributor of Wayfinder products, with
> product activation codes delivered direct to your
> mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
>
> www.talknav.com
> www.wayfinderaccess.com
> Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
> Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
>
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dean
> Wilcox
> Sent: 18 November 2009 23:00
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
>
> Hi,
> I opted for an iPod Touch the other month and am using
> WIFI from my N82 to surf the web, use the app store etc
> when I want to. This is working very nicely with
> Joikuspot. For anyone who thinks I'm mad I kept my N82
> for Access and the reader which I really like. It hit me
> earlier that if I upgraded to an N86 before the Talks fix
> came out I could still have the Internet and mail so I
> wanted to know are there any other things I should know
> or are the Internet and E-mail the only issues wih the
> N86?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al
> Sent: 18 November 2009 07:48
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> Thanks for this, wouldn't buy the phone till it was fully
> accessible with talks so will await developments from
> nuance.
>
> Alistair
>
>
> From: Matt Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:51 PM
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N86
>
> The N86 is a spectacular phone! I had the N82 before
> this, and the N86 is probably the best Nokia I've ever
> owned! Email and Browser support is coming very soon,
> next release for sure! I certainly don't think Nuance
> would be foolish enough not to support these features as
> its the most supported next gen Nokia available at
> present. Even Email and Browser are supported to an
> extent. To be honest I think a more pressing problem is
> the fact that you can't add multi-media content to
> messages or browse through photos with speech right now,
> not without a great degree of trial and error because
> there's no speech feedback.
>
> Matt
>
>
> From: Alistair
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:53 PM
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] N86
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Been in a bit of a dither over choosing a new phone,
> choice between either a iphone or a talks compatible
> Nokia. Can someone confirm that neither of the major
> screen readers for mobiles function fully with the n86?
> Or maybe someone knows of a alternitive which will work
> with talks which is wy fy, has GPS on board and is a
> good music player, the n86 seems to be most of these but
> also seems to be more of a digital camera than anything
> else which does put me off a bit. Anyone currently using
> the N86? is the keyboard as good as the N82? going into
> town at the weekend to have a look but all help would be
> appreciated. Off list E mail is below.
>
>
> Alistair
>
> alistair.kelly@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
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