[talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:11:27 -0000
yeah you really do have to keep your hand still with that thing something
that i found to be difficult.
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On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 18 February 2010 19:34
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Hi Paul,
That's interesting. I can do it without sighted assistance.
All the best
Steve
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Sent: Thursday 18 February 2010 11:46
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Of course they could line up the camera, as could I... We just couldn't make
it take a picture to scan.
I did try to force it by pressing the four way centre key but, it didn't
read anything intelligible.
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On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 08 February 2010 16:09
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Paul I am of course not Steve but interested in the content of your e-mail
as you send directly to the list. Are you saying that a sighted person was
unable to line up your camera? Surely I have misunderstood that!!!
Eleanor
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Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:04 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Thanks Steve.
I tried with sighted help and they couldn't do it either.
Never mind... If I can't get it to work and they can't, then it won't be any
good for me ultimately anyway.
Cheers.
Paul
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On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 03 February 2010 10:03
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Hi Paul,
You are just not quite lining up correctly. The beeps are probably still
not high enough for you to be in focus.
I suggest you get sighted help to help you hold and align the camera.
That's what I did.
All the best
Steve
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Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 16:21
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Hey Steve.
I'm full of hope for this thing but haven't found much yet.
Any tips would be gratefully received, I have done the following according
to the readme document.
Using a nokia n85:
Opened the Camera slider.
Opened the application.
It starts beeping.
Trying to move the phone from almost touching the page, very slowly raising
the phone up to try to get the beeps on a higher constant and they just go
from low to high to low again.
Holding the phone around the point where the beeps are higher as a constant
than lower.
Keeping the phone as still as possible for a minute in some cases but, no
automatic taking of the page.
I did force one by pressing the middle select key a couple of times but,
then the app says no text found.
I'd be interested in your thoughts.
I did install the fp2 version as suggested by you.
Thanks.
Paulto
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On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 21 January 2010 12:48
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Hi Paul,
I think it is pretty darned good for the price.
But you can download it for yourself at http://www.comproom.co.uk For the
N85, I believe you will need the FP2 version. You get a 14 day demo, and
the cost is 75 pounds.
All the best
Steve
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Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 12:01
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Hi Steve.
Do you have more info on the Beyo reader please?
Any thoughts as to how good it is?
Will it work on the N85?
Thanks much.
Paul
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On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 21 January 2010 10:25
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Hi Paul,
I have a Windows Mobile phone, and Mobile Speak. They are a lot less stable
than Symbian phones in my view, and the cameras are better on Symbian
phones. Think carefully before you do that, especially if you want
something like TextScout, or even the Beyo reader, which is only 75 pounds.
All the best
Steve
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On Behalf Of Paul Bepey
Sent: Monday 18 January 2010 17:22
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
No, I think they still have it, I wanted to upgrade to the E72 as the camera
works with Textscout but may well go down the Windows mobile route now.
Regards
Paul Bepey.
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On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 18 January 2010 17:06
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
How very interesting. Have vodafone stopped the e71 now? I have an e71
from Vodafone which I only got a short time ago!!! The qwerty keypad is
excellent and I am getting faster and faster at using it, certainly mty
speed now must be equal to that of the numeric key pad and that was fast.
never thought I could achieve this on the qwerty. I do not use predictive
type text either but maybe one day I will give that a go. I get fed up with
having to insert words that are not there already and if I just do it out
long-hand so to speak then I know what I am doing.
eleanor
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From: Paul <mailto:Paul.Bepey@xxxxxxxxx> Bepey
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:59 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Hi
I have the E72 from Vodafone, but hopefully not for much longer!
I think it is fair to say it would be a good practical solution for people
who like to keep up with emails, appointments, documents etc on the move if
they had tested with Talks before it was released.
the Calendar and help functions remain inaccessible at present and are
completely unusable. Email is readable with Roadsync, though the device
also comes with Mail4Exchange. It is also worth noting that the browser and
Talks are not stable and constantly crash. So, I suppose it's worth
avoiding this one currently until accessibility issues are resolved. I also
tried with Mobile speak but removed it after about 10 minutes.
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On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: 18 January 2010 16:27
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Subject: [talks-uk] N85 and E72 with Vodafone
Hi all.
I eventually plan to get out and about to look at these phones but I
wondered if anyone had any opinions before I do.
Vodafone do 3 phones it seems with WiFI and GPS that could work with Talks,
Namely the N85, the E72 and the N97. The N97 is touch screen so I tend to
discount that. The E72 is interesting. I am yet to be convinced that a
tiny qwerty keyboard is practical when typing. I think I would rather have
a keypad with buttons in a 3 by 4 configuration as if the keyboard is
standard qwerty in layout I assume the numbers must end up in a row from 1
to 0 which would be quite different from using a number pad. I have also
heard that compromise in the audio side has been made that means Talks is
not so stable though I believe the latest talks release helps.
Then there is the N85. the keys seem rather flat compared with the N95 I
have but it appears to have a conventional keypad as well. I believe it
uses an older symbian 3rd generation feature pack so calendar and in-built
email work well. I have read reviews that suggest poor design quality
however the included options look good so the question is I suppose, is how
manageable is the E72 and is it likely to struggle with JAWS and would the
N85 therefore be the better ;phone to go for?
Regards
Graham
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