[talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
- From: "Hussein Patwa" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:57:33 -0000
Hi Saqib,
Can't say I'm all too surprised. I only found out about the update recovery
from a non-booting phone literally just a few weeks ago when I was upgrading my
own phone. It could be new in the 2009 version although I'm not all that sure
on that one.
I'm told Nokia service centres used to use this - I'm not sure if this is still
the case but it's still one of the most well-used tools for phone recovery and
examination. Also, I think it often comes bundled with unlocking kits and the
like, particularly the more expensive ones.
If you can squeeze it out of them, I would be interested to see how CPW do the
recovery. That's assuming they don't just replace the handset outright which
I've known them do in the past.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:11 PM
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
>
> Well I've searched everywhere for it and can't find it. I went to
> www.software112.com and there are a lot of phoenex tools but none of
> them
> match the description of recovering a update failiure. Well I've
> knocked the
> search on the head and got in contact with the Carphone Warehouse and I
> should get it repaired for free as I've only had the thing for 6 weeks.
> I
> will have two wait for 2 weeks at the most but that's better than
> paying for
> it and it's going to be dealt with proper proffessionals instead of
> some
> local cowboys who botched up the last job for me to sort out.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:21 PM
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
>
> > Sorry about that Hussein, I just felt I qwas interested when you
> mentioned
> > Phonex and I think others were interested too.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hussein Patwa" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:56 PM
> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >
> >
> > Hello Eleanor,
> >
> > Whereas I appreciate your suggestion, there are already a fair few
> number
> > of tutorials on how to use the Phoenix suite online. One need only
> Google
> > for them. However, it is something I may consider once I have some
> time.
> > I'm currently just getting back to business after a few days off with
> a
> > rather nasty stomach bug. It means I must unfortunately prioritise
> on
> > some things whilst leaving others until later in order to cope with
> the
> > backlog.
> >
> > Thanks for the vote of confidence though.
> >
> > Note: this message was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. I
> > apologise for any errors in the text.
> >
> > _______________________________________
> > Have a pleasant day,
> >
> > Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
> >
> > Hussein.
> >
> > Hussein Patwa
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> > Sent: 03 February 2010 22:34
> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >
> > It would be interesting if we had a link to Phonex or is it something
> we
> > would have to purchase. How about a tutorial on it using Talks
> Hussein.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bjcolt" <bjcolt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:08 PM
> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >
> >
> >> Hi Hussein ,
> >>
> >> Is the phoenix suite accessible to screen readers? I use Window-
> eyes.
> >> Not
> >> that I am about to upgrade or downgrade anything at the moment.lol
> Too
> >> much stress studying.lol
> >>
> >> Kindest Regards, John
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Hussein Patwa" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:13 PM
> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Just for info. Should the phone become corrupted during an update,
> >> Phoenix suite is able to recover the phone even if the phone will
> not
> >> start. Also, as a matter of practice I now only update phones via
> >> Phoenix
> >> and using the entire software update package offline. Whereas I've
> been
> >> fortunate never to have problems with a NSU update, it's better to
> be
> >> safe
> >> than sorry. Whereas I'd not have to pay anything to have the phone
> >> restored, it's better to avoid the hassle in the first place.
> >> Incidentally, Phoenix also allows downgrading the firmware, but the
> phone
> >> must also support this.
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________
> >> Have a pleasant day,
> >>
> >> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
> >>
> >> Hussein.
> >>
> >> Hussein Patwa
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> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-
> >>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:10 PM
> >>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>>
> >>> I think Saqib, and forgive me if I am wrong, if a sighted person
> does
> >>> it
> >>> there is no problem really. Now I know there are those who do it
> >>> without
> >>> any vision but I messed up an N96 and like you had to pay £30 to
> have
> >>> it
> >>> flashed again. Yet I got a sighted person to update and there was
> no
> >>> problem at all.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:03 PM
> >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hi. I will just wait for the over the air update. I messed up a
> E71
> >>> update
> >>> > and the phone got karrupt so I had to pay to get it flashed and
> then
> >>> had
> >>> > another crack at updating it. Lucky for me it worked out the
> second
> >>> time.
> >>> > I still wouldn't like to atemp updating my N97 Mini because if I
> make
> >>> a
> >>> > mistake then it will turn out to be a very expensive mistake and
> >>> these
> >>> > updates are not really worth losing a phone over. Not when I
> shelled
> >>> out
> >>> > nearly £400 for the beast.
> >>> >
> >>> > --------------------------------------------------
> >>> > From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:45 PM
> >>> > To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi Saqib
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Yep, that's because over the air updates are not rolled out
> >>> immediately
> >>> >> as
> >>> >> they require further testing as they are made smaller than the
> NSU
> >>> update
> >>> >> files to allow for access by data users in addition to WiFI (I
> >>> believe
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> update is in the region of 160MB via NSU so needs shrinking
> somewhat
> >>> for
> >>> >> over the air)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> so plug your phone into your pc, load up NSU and see if you're a
> >>> lucky
> >>> >> winner! Alternatively to see if the update is available for you
> you
> >>> could
> >>> >> put your product code into the Nokia website? Product code is
> under
> >>> your
> >>> >> battery on that label thingy... Then go to the following link
> and
> >>> put
> >>> >> your
> >>> >> code in
> >>> >>
> >>> >> http://www.nokia.co.uk/support/download-software/device-
> software-
> >>> update/can-
> >>> >> i-update
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Enjoy!
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Pete
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -original message-
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >> From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> >> Date: 03/02/2010 11:16 am
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I've heard that there is a new firmware available for my N97
> Mini
> >>> and my
> >>> >> phone is sim free. Would there be any reason why I'm not
> receiving
> >>> the
> >>> >> over
> >>> >> the air update? I received an update for the free Nokia Maps
> >>> navigation a
> >>> >> couple of weeks ago but nothing since then.
> >>> >> My Twitter page is www.twitter.com/saqib1975
> >>> >> MSN Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: Steve Nutt
> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:01 AM
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Alex,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> That is simple. Vodafone may not be allowing you to update from
> >>> Version
> >>> >> 11.
> >>> >> This is not just a Nokia thing, but dependent upon your operator
> >>> too.
> >>> >> Voda
> >>> >> won't release a firmware version to their users until they have
> >>> tested
> >>> >> it,
> >>> >> so Nokia will of course, block you from updating it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> All the best
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone - CW
> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday 26 January 2010 10:16
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So why does Nokia Software Updater say it is?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cheers
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Alex
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >>> --------
> >>> >> ----
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> >>> >> Sent: 21 January 2010 15:45
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Alex,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Firmware 11 is not the latest firmware. We are on 20.6.119 now
> I
> >>> >> believe.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> All the best
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone - CW
> >>> >> Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 14:37
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve, According to Nokia software updater I have firmware
> version
> >>> 11.043
> >>> >> which is the latest version. The camera app is definitely shut.
> This
> >>> is
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> exact same problem I had on my previous handset.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cheers
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Alex
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >>> --------
> >>> >> ----
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> >>> >> Sent: 21 January 2010 14:12
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Alex,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> What is the firmware version please? Also, are you definitely
> >>> closing
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> camera application when you open the cover? When you open the
> cover
> >>> the
> >>> >> camera app opens automatically. You need to close it before
> going
> >>> into
> >>> >> Beyo.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> All the best
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone - CW
> >>> >> Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 13:41
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve, I definitely installed the fp2 version.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cheers
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Alex
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >>> --------
> >>> >> ----
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> >>> >> Sent: 21 January 2010 13:36
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Alex,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Are you sure you are installing the FP2 version? If you
> installed
> >>> the
> >>> >> FP1
> >>> >> version, you would get the error initialising the camera.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> All the best
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone - CW
> >>> >> Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 13:12
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve, Having just downloaded Beyocbs for my replacement n86, I
> was
> >>> able
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> get another 14 day trial license, and I'm still being told (when
> I
> >>> try
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> take the picture): Error camera is unable to focus.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> As before, the cover is off the lense, the light is reaso0nable,
> and
> >>> it
> >>> >> doesn't matter how far the phone is from the paper, it always
> >>> happens.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cheers
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Alex
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >>> --------
> >>> >> ----
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> >>> >> Sent: 21 January 2010 12:48
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Paul,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I think it is pretty darned good for the price.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> But you can download it for yourself at
> http://www.comproom.co.uk
> >>> For
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> N85, I believe you will need the FP2 version. You get a 14 day
> >>> demo, and
> >>> >> the cost is 75 pounds.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> All the best
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of All formats
> >>> >> Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 12:01
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Steve.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Do you have more info on the Beyo reader please?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Any thoughts as to how good it is?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Will it work on the N85?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks much.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Paul
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >>> --------
> >>> >> ----
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> >>> >> Sent: 21 January 2010 10:25
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Paul,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I have a Windows Mobile phone, and Mobile Speak. They are a lot
> >>> less
> >>> >> stable
> >>> >> than Symbian phones in my view, and the cameras are better on
> >>> Symbian
> >>> >> phones. Think carefully before you do that, especially if you
> want
> >>> >> something like TextScout, or even the Beyo reader, which is only
> 75
> >>> >> pounds.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> All the best
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Paul Bepey
> >>> >> Sent: Monday 18 January 2010 17:22
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> No, I think they still have it, I wanted to upgrade to the E72
> as
> >>> the
> >>> >> camera
> >>> >> works with Textscout but may well go down the Windows mobile
> route
> >>> now.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Regards
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Paul Bepey.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> >>> >> Sent: 18 January 2010 17:06
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> How very interesting. Have vodafone stopped the e71 now? I
> have an
> >>> e71
> >>> >> from Vodafone which I only got a short time ago!!! The qwerty
> >>> keypad is
> >>> >> excellent and I am getting faster and faster at using it,
> certainly
> >>> mty
> >>> >> speed now must be equal to that of the numeric key pad and that
> was
> >>> fast.
> >>> >> never thought I could achieve this on the qwerty. I do not use
> >>> >> predictive
> >>> >> type text either but maybe one day I will give that a go. I get
> fed
> >>> up
> >>> >> with
> >>> >> having to insert words that are not there already and if I just
> do
> >>> it out
> >>> >> long-hand so to speak then I know what I am doing.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> eleanor
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: Paul Bepey
> >>> >>
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:59 PM
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I have the E72 from Vodafone, but hopefully not for much
> longer!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I think it is fair to say it would be a good practical
> solution
> >>> for
> >>> >> people who like to keep up with emails, appointments, documents
> etc
> >>> on
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> move if they had tested with Talks before it was released.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> the Calendar and help functions remain inaccessible at present
> and
> >>> are
> >>> >> completely unusable. Email is readable with Roadsync, though
> the
> >>> device
> >>> >> also comes with Mail4Exchange. It is also worth noting that the
> >>> browser
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> Talks are not stable and constantly crash. So, I suppose it's
> worth
> >>> >> avoiding this one currently until accessibility issues are
> resolved.
> >>> I
> >>> >> also
> >>> >> tried with Mobile speak but removed it after about 10 minutes.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> >> On Behalf Of Graham Page
> >>> >> Sent: 18 January 2010 16:27
> >>> >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Subject: [talks-uk] N85 and E72 with Vodafone
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi all.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I eventually plan to get out and about to look at these phones
> but
> >>> I
> >>> >> wondered if anyone had any opinions before I do.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Vodafone do 3 phones it seems with WiFI and GPS that could
> work
> >>> with
> >>> >> Talks, Namely the N85, the E72 and the N97. The N97 is touch
> screen
> >>> so I
> >>> >> tend to discount that. The E72 is interesting. I am yet to be
> >>> convinced
> >>> >> that a tiny qwerty keyboard is practical when typing. I think I
> >>> would
> >>> >> rather have a keypad with buttons in a 3 by 4 configuration as
> if
> >>> the
> >>> >> keyboard is standard qwerty in layout I assume the numbers must
> end
> >>> up in
> >>> >> a
> >>> >> row from 1 to 0 which would be quite different from using a
> number
> >>> pad.
> >>> >> I
> >>> >> have also heard that compromise in the audio side has been made
> that
> >>> >> means
> >>> >> Talks is not so stable though I believe the latest talks
> release
> >>> helps.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Then there is the N85. the keys seem rather flat compared with
> the
> >>> N95
> >>> >> I
> >>> >> have but it appears to have a conventional keypad as well. I
> >>> believe it
> >>> >> uses an older symbian 3rd generation feature pack so calendar
> and
> >>> >> in-built
> >>> >> email work well. I have read reviews that suggest poor design
> >>> quality
> >>> >> however the included options look good so the question is I
> suppose,
> >>> is
> >>> >> how
> >>> >> manageable is the E72 and is it likely to struggle with JAWS and
> >>> would
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> N85 therefore be the better ;phone to go for?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Regards
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Graham
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Graham Page
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> >>> >> Skype: gabriel_mcbird
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
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> >>>
> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> >>> signature database 4832 (20100203) __________
> >>>
> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> >>>
> >>> Email message - is OK
> >>>
> >>> http://www.eset.com
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> >> signature database 4832 (20100203) __________
> >>
> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> >>
> >> Email message - is OK
> >>
> >> http://www.eset.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> > signature database 4836 (20100204) __________
> >
> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> >
> > Email message - is OK
> >
> > http://www.eset.com
> >
> >
> >
> > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> > signature database 4836 (20100204) __________
> >
> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> >
> > Email message - is OK
> >
> > http://www.eset.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> signature database 4836 (20100204) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> Email message - is OK
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
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