[talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone

  • From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:03:35 -0000

Hi. I will just wait for the over the air update. I messed up a E71 update and the phone got karrupt so I had to pay to get it flashed and then had another crack at updating it. Lucky for me it worked out the second time. I still wouldn't like to atemp updating my N97 Mini because if I make a mistake then it will turn out to be a very expensive mistake and these updates are not really worth losing a phone over. Not when I shelled out nearly £400 for the beast.


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From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:45 PM
To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone

Hi Saqib

Yep, that's because over the air updates are not rolled out immediately as
they require further testing as they are made smaller than the NSU update
files to allow for access by data users in addition to WiFI (I believe the
update is in the region of 160MB via NSU so needs shrinking somewhat for
over the air)

so plug your phone into your pc, load up NSU and see if you're a lucky
winner! Alternatively to see if the update is available for you you could
put your product code into the Nokia website? Product code is under your
battery on that label thingy... Then go to the following link and put your
code in

http://www.nokia.co.uk/support/download-software/device-software-update/can-
i-update


Enjoy!


Pete


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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone
From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 03/02/2010 11:16 am

I've heard that there is a new firmware available for my N97 Mini and my
phone is sim free. Would there be any reason why I'm not receiving the over
the air update? I received an update for the free Nokia Maps navigation a
couple of weeks ago but nothing since then.
My Twitter page is www.twitter.com/saqib1975
MSN Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx


From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:01 AM
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone


Hi Alex,



That is simple. Vodafone may not be allowing you to update from Version 11. This is not just a Nokia thing, but dependent upon your operator too. Voda
won't release a firmware version to their users until they have tested it,
so Nokia will of course, block you from updating it.



All the best



Steve



From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alex Stone - CW
Sent: Tuesday 26 January 2010 10:16
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



So why does Nokia Software Updater say it is?

Cheers

Alex




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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 21 January 2010 15:45
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



Hi Alex,



Firmware 11 is not the latest firmware.  We are on 20.6.119 now I believe.



All the best



Steve



From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alex Stone - CW
Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 14:37
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



Steve, According to Nokia software updater I have firmware version 11.043
which is the latest version. The camera app is definitely shut. This is the
exact same problem I had on my previous handset.

Cheers

Alex




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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 21 January 2010 14:12
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



Hi Alex,



What is the firmware version please?  Also, are you definitely closing the
camera application when you open the cover?  When you open the cover the
camera app opens automatically.  You need to close it before going into
Beyo.



All the best



Steve



From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alex Stone - CW
Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 13:41
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



Steve, I definitely installed the fp2 version.

Cheers

Alex




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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 21 January 2010 13:36
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



Hi Alex,



Are you sure you are installing the FP2 version?  If you installed the FP1
version, you would get the error initialising the camera.



All the best



Steve



From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alex Stone - CW
Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 13:12
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



Steve, Having just downloaded Beyocbs for my replacement n86, I was able to
get another 14 day trial license, and I'm still being told (when I try and
take the picture): Error camera is unable to focus.

As before, the cover is off the lense, the light is reaso0nable, and it
doesn't matter how far the phone is from the paper, it always happens.

Cheers

Alex




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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 21 January 2010 12:48
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



Hi Paul,



I think it is pretty darned good for the price.



But you can download it for yourself at http://www.comproom.co.uk  For the
N85, I believe you will need the FP2 version.  You get a 14 day demo, and
the cost is 75 pounds.



All the best



Steve



From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of All formats
Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 12:01
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



Hi Steve.



Do you have more info on the Beyo reader please?



Any thoughts as to how good it is?



Will it work on the N85?



Thanks much.



Paul




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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 21 January 2010 10:25
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone

Hi Paul,



I have a Windows Mobile phone, and Mobile Speak. They are a lot less stable
than Symbian phones in my view, and the cameras are better on Symbian
phones.  Think carefully before you do that, especially if you want
something like TextScout, or even the Beyo reader, which is only 75 pounds.



All the best



Steve



From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Paul Bepey
Sent: Monday 18 January 2010 17:22
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



No, I think they still have it, I wanted to upgrade to the E72 as the camera
works with Textscout but may well go down the Windows mobile route now.

Regards

Paul Bepey.

From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 18 January 2010 17:06
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



How very interesting.  Have vodafone stopped the e71 now?  I have an e71
from Vodafone which I only got a short time ago!!!  The qwerty keypad is
excellent and I am getting faster and faster at using it, certainly mty
speed now must be equal to that of the numeric key pad and that was fast.
never thought I could achieve this on the qwerty.  I do not use predictive
type text either but maybe one day I will give that a go. I get fed up with
having to insert words that are not there already and if I just do it out
long-hand so to speak then I know what I am doing.



eleanor

----- Original Message -----
 From: Paul Bepey

 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

 Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:59 PM

 Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone



 Hi

 I have the E72 from Vodafone, but hopefully not for much longer!

 I  think it is fair to say it would be a good practical solution for
people who like to keep up with emails, appointments, documents etc on the
move if they had tested with Talks before it was released.

 the Calendar and help functions remain inaccessible at present and are
completely unusable.  Email is readable with Roadsync, though the device
also comes with Mail4Exchange. It is also worth noting that the browser and
Talks are not stable and constantly crash.  So, I suppose it's worth
avoiding this one currently until accessibility issues are resolved. I also
tried with Mobile speak but removed it after about 10 minutes.



From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Graham Page
 Sent: 18 January 2010 16:27
 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [talks-uk] N85 and E72 with Vodafone





 Hi all.



 I eventually plan to get out and about to look at these phones but I
wondered if anyone had any opinions before I do.



 Vodafone  do 3 phones it seems with WiFI and GPS that could work with
Talks, Namely the N85, the E72 and the N97.  The N97 is touch screen so I
tend to discount that.  The E72 is interesting.  I am yet to be convinced
that a tiny qwerty keyboard is practical when typing.  I think I would
rather have a keypad with buttons in a 3 by 4 configuration as if the
keyboard is standard qwerty in layout I assume the numbers must end up in a
row from 1 to 0 which would be quite different from using a number pad.  I
have also heard that compromise in the audio side has been made that means
Talks  is not so stable though I believe the latest talks release helps.



 Then there is the N85.  the keys seem rather flat compared with the N95 I
have but it appears to have  a conventional keypad as well.  I believe it
uses an older symbian 3rd generation feature pack so calendar and in-built
email work well.  I have read reviews that suggest poor design quality
however the included options look good so the question is I suppose, is how
manageable is the E72 and is it likely to struggle with JAWS and would the
N85 therefore be the better ;phone to go for?



 Regards

 Graham



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