Hi Darren, Yes, once registered it should work without a Sim. But the E phones basically have low-end cameras, so you won't get great results from them. I believe the E72 though does have a 5MP camera. All the best Steve From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Harris Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 16:25 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone steve is it any better now on phones like the e71? i really don't want to have to change my phone again just because of a scanner programme if you take my meaning. equally 75 quid for a scanner programme is a good deal. i do have an m82 sitting here but i haven't got a spare sim for it and beyond registration, i don't know if the programme can work with a phone without a sim in it. if it can then i guess that's that settled. if it can't then i'm not sure of the best course of action is at this time. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats Sent: 21 January 2010 16:21 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone Hey Steve. I'm full of hope for this thing but haven't found much yet. Any tips would be gratefully received, I have done the following according to the readme document. Using a nokia n85: Opened the Camera slider. Opened the application. It starts beeping. Trying to move the phone from almost touching the page, very slowly raising the phone up to try to get the beeps on a higher constant and they just go from low to high to low again. Holding the phone around the point where the beeps are higher as a constant than lower. Keeping the phone as still as possible for a minute in some cases but, no automatic taking of the page. I did force one by pressing the middle select key a couple of times but, then the app says no text found. I'd be interested in your thoughts. I did install the fp2 version as suggested by you. Thanks. Paulto _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 21 January 2010 12:48 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone Hi Paul, I think it is pretty darned good for the price. But you can download it for yourself at http://www.comproom.co.uk For the N85, I believe you will need the FP2 version. You get a 14 day demo, and the cost is 75 pounds. All the best Steve From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats Sent: Thursday 21 January 2010 12:01 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone Hi Steve. Do you have more info on the Beyo reader please? Any thoughts as to how good it is? Will it work on the N85? Thanks much. Paul _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 21 January 2010 10:25 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone Hi Paul, I have a Windows Mobile phone, and Mobile Speak. They are a lot less stable than Symbian phones in my view, and the cameras are better on Symbian phones. Think carefully before you do that, especially if you want something like TextScout, or even the Beyo reader, which is only 75 pounds. All the best Steve From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Bepey Sent: Monday 18 January 2010 17:22 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone No, I think they still have it, I wanted to upgrade to the E72 as the camera works with Textscout but may well go down the Windows mobile route now. Regards Paul Bepey. From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 18 January 2010 17:06 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone How very interesting. Have vodafone stopped the e71 now? I have an e71 from Vodafone which I only got a short time ago!!! The qwerty keypad is excellent and I am getting faster and faster at using it, certainly mty speed now must be equal to that of the numeric key pad and that was fast. never thought I could achieve this on the qwerty. I do not use predictive type text either but maybe one day I will give that a go. I get fed up with having to insert words that are not there already and if I just do it out long-hand so to speak then I know what I am doing. eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Bepey <mailto:Paul.Bepey@xxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:59 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N85 and E72 with Vodafone Hi I have the E72 from Vodafone, but hopefully not for much longer! I think it is fair to say it would be a good practical solution for people who like to keep up with emails, appointments, documents etc on the move if they had tested with Talks before it was released. the Calendar and help functions remain inaccessible at present and are completely unusable. Email is readable with Roadsync, though the device also comes with Mail4Exchange. It is also worth noting that the browser and Talks are not stable and constantly crash. So, I suppose it's worth avoiding this one currently until accessibility issues are resolved. I also tried with Mobile speak but removed it after about 10 minutes. From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: 18 January 2010 16:27 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] N85 and E72 with Vodafone Hi all. I eventually plan to get out and about to look at these phones but I wondered if anyone had any opinions before I do. Vodafone do 3 phones it seems with WiFI and GPS that could work with Talks, Namely the N85, the E72 and the N97. The N97 is touch screen so I tend to discount that. The E72 is interesting. I am yet to be convinced that a tiny qwerty keyboard is practical when typing. I think I would rather have a keypad with buttons in a 3 by 4 configuration as if the keyboard is standard qwerty in layout I assume the numbers must end up in a row from 1 to 0 which would be quite different from using a number pad. I have also heard that compromise in the audio side has been made that means Talks is not so stable though I believe the latest talks release helps. Then there is the N85. the keys seem rather flat compared with the N95 I have but it appears to have a conventional keypad as well. I believe it uses an older symbian 3rd generation feature pack so calendar and in-built email work well. I have read reviews that suggest poor design quality however the included options look good so the question is I suppose, is how manageable is the E72 and is it likely to struggle with JAWS and would the N85 therefore be the better ;phone to go for? 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