[talks-uk] Re: Music file types

  • From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:08:41 -0000

Pretty good, aye! Now I just have to change over to a new way of working ... and reap the benefits.


Thanks for the explanation Steve.  Clearest I've heard to date.

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Carol
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On Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:58 PM (UK time), Steve Nutt at steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx said:

Hi Carol,

It won't even use its own player if you don't want it to.

The advantage with the player is the library.  You can type in any
part of a track, and it will look for all versions of that track in
your library.  So if you had three versions of "Oh Carol", then you
would just search for Carol, and it would play you anything with that
word anywhere in the title of the track.

Party Shuffle is another advantage, not just shuffle, but cross-fade
as well.  Nice cross-fade too.

Finally, Genius.  Play a track, and Itunes will look through your
library of tracks for similar sounding tracks.

Oh yes, I know I said finally, but this is finally, gapless playback.
Ever ripped a concert, played all the MP3's and the crowd breaks up
at each track join?  Not with Itunes, you get completely gapless
playback.

Good enough?

All the best

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Wednesday 14 January 2009 22:30
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

OK, so it won't take over but uses its own player, I guess.  What are
the advantages then of using it over other players?


Hi Carol,

I am not after convincing anybody.  Just install it and say no to
associating files, and it won't take over anything.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 17:46
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

OK, while everyone is going on about Itunes, I gather that the
earlier versions sort of "took over" the computer, and everything
played that way etc.

Please tell me enough about it to consivince me it's now worth having
and using???


Good, about time I think.

I think the majority of us can be trusted.

I will perhaps reconsider Itunes after all then.

Their files do tend to be of better sound quality.

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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 13 January 2009 14:29
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

Hi Paul,

They are dropping all DRM from March.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats
Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 10:38
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

I thought Itunes had DRM on their files.

Perhaps they have become a little less stringent over the years?


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 12 January 2009 18:56
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

Hi Mark,

So does iTunes.  Better quality too.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Brett
Sent: Monday 12 January 2009 17:09
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

Just to let you know that amazon uk do downloads that dont have any
drm protection on them.

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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types
From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 12/01/2009 16:47

Hi Barbara

I would think it is as you suggested.  That you can't convert them
because they originate through Itunes.

I am surprised that you are able to convert some from that source
and not others.  I believe that Itunes is very strict with their DRM
(Digital Rights Management).  DRM can be more strict on some files
than others anyway.  e.g. You would be able to copy some files to a
certain device and there would be a set amount of times you could do
this whilst other levels of DRM may restrict you to one PC and one
device such as an Ipod.

I have heard that a work around is that if you burn a CD through
Itunes or equivalent and then rip the CD through Windows media
player or equivalent, that the ripped tracks can be copied without
the DRM limitations.

I have had mixed results with this too so, you might want to try it
to see what happens.

I say this as someone who does not recommend or support any type of
illegal file sharing etc but, I do get very frustrated when I buy a
music track that is so restricted that I can't even copy it to my
phone to hear away from my PC.

Hope my response is helpful to you and here's hoping I haven't
started a mad discussion on this topic about legalities etc <smile>!

Cheers.

Paul

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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson
Sent: 12 January 2009 16:08
To: talks-uk
Subject: [talks-uk] Music file types


Sorry if this message is more appropriate for another list. When
transfering music from my PC to my phone, I find that some files
when converted to MP3 still don't play. I am using an E51, but have
tried this on a couple of handsets. When I copy files from iTunes
they are usually in M4 A or B or P, so I convert them to MP3 using
Goldwave before transfering them. Some play fine and some don't.
Would this be because they are itunes purchases and therefore can't
be manipulated through GoldWave? Though I have converted and used
other iTunes purchases. I would be greatful if anyone has any
suggestions.

Barbara


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