[talks-uk] Re: Music file types

  • From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:26:30 -0000

OK Paul, point taken but there comes a point when people could exchange off list and it is just the same few people so that is a possability. 


Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types



It's not really a problem is it?  The conversation hasn't digressed to a
point where it has nothing to do with phones.
I think We originally started with some file types not working on phones and 
why.

It would be like wondering why a file type was not working when trying to
use it as a ringtone.  Or, why we couldn't connect to WLAN via a phone
application to our home network.

We just need a balance between having some leeway on one hand and common
sense or the rules of the list on the other.
In any event, in this case, we seem to have managed ourselves quite happily. 

Cheers.

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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 15 January 2009 11:18
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

That is good Barbra, I was thinking I was on the wrong list as I am
interested in Talks and how it works with mobile phones rather than using
applications on a mobile phone unrelated to Talks issues.

Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:47 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types



Barbara - yes, it was just that somebody else had started this thread on
this list for some reason; anyway, this should be an end of it now
<smile> -

Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:00 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types



Hi Andy

Probably the blindipod list would be the best place for this discusion.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:27 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types



Hi Andy,

That's what I said earlier, this is really off topic.  But no, it is
nothing
like Version 6, it is far more accessible. Just try it, you never know, 


you
may actually like it, especially with Window-Eyes wherfe you need no
scripts
<Smile>.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS
Sent: Wednesday 14 January 2009 23:06
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

Steve - is setting up things like Party Shuffle just as it use to be in
earlier versions of Itunes? I tried with it back in maybe version 6, and 


I
couldn't get to grips with it; I don't want to buy scripts! By the way,
shouldn't we be on the access UK list with this topic? -

Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:58 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types



Hi Carol,

It won't even use its own player if you don't want it to.
The advantage with the player is the library. You can type in any part 


of



a
track, and it will look for all versions of that track in your library. 
So
if you had three versions of "Oh Carol", then you would just search for 
Carol, and it would play you anything with that word anywhere in the
title
of the track.
Party Shuffle is another advantage, not just shuffle, but cross-fade as 
well.  Nice cross-fade too.

Finally, Genius.  Play a track, and Itunes will look through your
library
of
tracks for similar sounding tracks.

Oh yes, I know I said finally, but this is finally, gapless playback.
Ever
ripped a concert, played all the MP3's and the crowd breaks up at each
track
join?  Not with Itunes, you get completely gapless playback.

Good enough?

All the best

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Wednesday 14 January 2009 22:30
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

OK, so it won't take over but uses its own player, I guess.  What are
the
advantages then of using it over other players?

--
Carol
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:57 PM (UK time), Steve Nutt at
steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx said:


Hi Carol,

I am not after convincing anybody.  Just install it and say no to
associating files, and it won't take over anything.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 17:46
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types
OK, while everyone is going on about Itunes, I gather that the earlier 
versions sort of "took over" the computer, and everything played that
way etc.

Please tell me enough about it to consivince me it's now worth having
and using???



Good, about time I think.

I think the majority of us can be trusted.

I will perhaps reconsider Itunes after all then.

Their files do tend to be of better sound quality.

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 13 January 2009 14:29
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

Hi Paul,

They are dropping all DRM from March.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats
Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 10:38
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

I thought Itunes had DRM on their files.

Perhaps they have become a little less stringent over the years?


Paul Hopkins - Manager

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 12 January 2009 18:56
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

Hi Mark,

So does iTunes.  Better quality too.

All the best

Steve

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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Brett
Sent: Monday 12 January 2009 17:09
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types

Just to let you know that amazon uk do downloads that dont have any
drm protection on them.

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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types
From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 12/01/2009 16:47

Hi Barbara

I would think it is as you suggested.  That you can't convert them
because they originate through Itunes.
I am surprised that you are able to convert some from that source and 
not others.  I believe that Itunes is very strict with their DRM
(Digital Rights Management).  DRM can be more strict on some files
than others anyway.  e.g. You would be able to copy some files to a
certain device and there would be a set amount of times you could do
this whilst other levels of DRM may restrict you to one PC and one
device such as an Ipod.

I have heard that a work around is that if you burn a CD through
Itunes or equivalent and then rip the CD through Windows media player 
or equivalent, that the ripped tracks can be copied without the DRM
limitations.

I have had mixed results with this too so, you might want to try it
to see what happens.

I say this as someone who does not recommend or support any type of
illegal file sharing etc but, I do get very frustrated when I buy a
music track that is so restricted that I can't even copy it to my
phone to hear away from my PC.

Hope my response is helpful to you and here's hoping I haven't
started a mad discussion on this topic about legalities etc <smile>!

Cheers.

Paul

Paul Hopkins - Manager

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Queen Alexandra College

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[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson
Sent: 12 January 2009 16:08
To: talks-uk
Subject: [talks-uk] Music file types


Sorry if this message is more appropriate for another list. When
transfering music from my PC to my phone, I find that some files when 
converted to MP3 still don't play. I am using an E51, but have tried
this on a couple of handsets. When I copy files from iTunes they are
usually in M4 A or B or P, so I convert them to MP3 using Goldwave
before transfering them. Some play fine and some don't. Would this be 
because they are itunes purchases and therefore can't be manipulated
through GoldWave? Though I have converted and used other iTunes
purchases. I would be greatful if anyone has any suggestions.

Barbara


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