OK Paul, point taken but there comes a point when people could exchange off list and it is just the same few people so that is a possability.
Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types
It's not really a problem is it? The conversation hasn't digressed to a point where it has nothing to do with phones.I think We originally started with some file types not working on phones andwhy. It would be like wondering why a file type was not working when trying to use it as a ringtone. Or, why we couldn't connect to WLAN via a phone application to our home network. We just need a balance between having some leeway on one hand and common sense or the rules of the list on the other.In any event, in this case, we seem to have managed ourselves quite happily.Cheers. Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.ukAllformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access byPeople with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take no action based onthem, nor must you retain them, copy them, distribute them or disclose theircontents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 15 January 2009 11:18 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types That is good Barbra, I was thinking I was on the wrong list as I am interested in Talks and how it works with mobile phones rather than using applications on a mobile phone unrelated to Talks issues. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file typesBarbara - yes, it was just that somebody else had started this thread on this list for some reason; anyway, this should be an end of it now <smile> - Andy----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file typesHi Andy Probably the blindipod list would be the best place for this discusion. Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file typesHi Andy, That's what I said earlier, this is really off topic. But no, it is nothinglike Version 6, it is far more accessible. Just try it, you never know,you may actually like it, especially with Window-Eyes wherfe you need no scripts <Smile>. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS Sent: Wednesday 14 January 2009 23:06 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types Steve - is setting up things like Party Shuffle just as it use to be inearlier versions of Itunes? I tried with it back in maybe version 6, andI couldn't get to grips with it; I don't want to buy scripts! By the way, shouldn't we be on the access UK list with this topic? - Andy----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:58 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file typesHi Carol, It won't even use its own player if you don't want it to.The advantage with the player is the library. You can type in any partofatrack, and it will look for all versions of that track in your library.Soif you had three versions of "Oh Carol", then you would just search forCarol, and it would play you anything with that word anywhere in the title of the track.Party Shuffle is another advantage, not just shuffle, but cross-fade aswell. Nice cross-fade too. Finally, Genius. Play a track, and Itunes will look through your library of tracks for similar sounding tracks. Oh yes, I know I said finally, but this is finally, gapless playback. Ever ripped a concert, played all the MP3's and the crowd breaks up at each track join? Not with Itunes, you get completely gapless playback. Good enough? All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: Wednesday 14 January 2009 22:30 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types OK, so it won't take over but uses its own player, I guess. What are the advantages then of using it over other players? -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:57 PM (UK time), Steve Nutt at steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx said:Hi Carol, I am not after convincing anybody. Just install it and say no to associating files, and it won't take over anything. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 17:46 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file typesOK, while everyone is going on about Itunes, I gather that the earlierversions sort of "took over" the computer, and everything played that way etc. Please tell me enough about it to consivince me it's now worth having and using???Good, about time I think. I think the majority of us can be trusted. I will perhaps reconsider Itunes after all then. Their files do tend to be of better sound quality. Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer:This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) onlyand may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take noaction based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distributethem or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 13 January 2009 14:29 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types Hi Paul, They are dropping all DRM from March. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 10:38 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types I thought Itunes had DRM on their files. Perhaps they have become a little less stringent over the years? Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer:This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) onlyand may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take noaction based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distributethem or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 12 January 2009 18:56 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types Hi Mark, So does iTunes. Better quality too. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Brett Sent: Monday 12 January 2009 17:09 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types Just to let you know that amazon uk do downloads that dont have any drm protection on them. Mark Brett This e-mail was produced on a Nokia N82 E-mail: markbrett@xxxxxxxxxx Home: 08712221267 Fax: 08704422678 SMS: 07962432222 Mobile: 08713159900 and 07092226226 -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 12/01/2009 16:47 Hi Barbara I would think it is as you suggested. That you can't convert them because they originate through Itunes.I am surprised that you are able to convert some from that source andnot others. I believe that Itunes is very strict with their DRM (Digital Rights Management). DRM can be more strict on some files than others anyway. e.g. You would be able to copy some files to a certain device and there would be a set amount of times you could do this whilst other levels of DRM may restrict you to one PC and one device such as an Ipod. I have heard that a work around is that if you burn a CD throughItunes or equivalent and then rip the CD through Windows media playeror equivalent, that the ripped tracks can be copied without the DRM limitations. I have had mixed results with this too so, you might want to try it to see what happens. I say this as someone who does not recommend or support any type of illegal file sharing etc but, I do get very frustrated when I buy a music track that is so restricted that I can't even copy it to my phone to hear away from my PC. Hope my response is helpful to you and here's hoping I haven't started a mad discussion on this topic about legalities etc <smile>! Cheers. Paul Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer:This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) onlyand may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take noaction based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distributethem or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 12 January 2009 16:08 To: talks-uk Subject: [talks-uk] Music file types Sorry if this message is more appropriate for another list. Whentransfering music from my PC to my phone, I find that some files whenconverted to MP3 still don't play. I am using an E51, but have tried this on a couple of handsets. When I copy files from iTunes they are usually in M4 A or B or P, so I convert them to MP3 using Goldwavebefore transfering them. Some play fine and some don't. Would this bebecause they are itunes purchases and therefore can't be manipulated through GoldWave? Though I have converted and used other iTunes purchases. I would be greatful if anyone has any suggestions. 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