Yes, Barbara, I have purchased one single track and an entire album from Play.com and found the process very straightforward. The album was downloaded in a zip file which I then had to unzip. All files are MP3, DRM-free, and some are encoded at 192 kbps while others are 320 kbps. I believe you can re-download files as many times as you like if you go back to My Account and select your Order History. I've also bought one album from Amazon. You do have to install the download manager to be able to download the whole album in one go, which I managed to do with Jaws 10. I wouldn't say that the process was quite as simple as with Play and I did have a problem with one track from Amazon which wouldn't download, but I e-mailed their customer support who were excellent as they very quickly re-set my access to the album so I could try again. You do only get one attempt to download your MP3's with Amazon, so need to make a back-up as soon as you can. Amazon tend to be a bit cheaper for the very latest albums with some costing as little as £3, but I've found that Play has the wider choice, at least at present, although Amazon's service hasn't been available quite as long as Play's, so they will probably catch up. Caroline. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 12 January 2009 18:54 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types Play.com do downloads too, has anyone ever purchased from them? Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Brett" <markbrett@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types I have only downloaded single tracks so cant comment on how friendly the ap is. Mark Brett This e-mail was produced on a Nokia N82 E-mail: markbrett@xxxxxxxxxx Home: 08712221267 Fax: 08704422678 SMS: 07962432222 Mobile: 08713159900 and 07092226226 -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 12/01/2009 17:38 No they don't you are quite right. You do need the file downloader from Amazon though. Otherwise, you can only buy and download one file at a time. Have you used the downloader and how accessible is it if you have please? I know this might be a bit OT, so, if you want to email me off list that is fine. Thanks. Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distribute them or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Brett Sent: 12 January 2009 17:09 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types Just to let you know that amazon uk do downloads that dont have any drm protection on them. Mark Brett This e-mail was produced on a Nokia N82 E-mail: markbrett@xxxxxxxxxx Home: 08712221267 Fax: 08704422678 SMS: 07962432222 Mobile: 08713159900 and 07092226226 -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 12/01/2009 16:47 Hi Barbara I would think it is as you suggested. That you can't convert them because they originate through Itunes. I am surprised that you are able to convert some from that source and not others. I believe that Itunes is very strict with their DRM (Digital Rights Management). DRM can be more strict on some files than others anyway. e.g. You would be able to copy some files to a certain device and there would be a set amount of times you could do this whilst other levels of DRM may restrict you to one PC and one device such as an Ipod. I have heard that a work around is that if you burn a CD through Itunes or equivalent and then rip the CD through Windows media player or equivalent, that the ripped tracks can be copied without the DRM limitations. I have had mixed results with this too so, you might want to try it to see what happens. I say this as someone who does not recommend or support any type of illegal file sharing etc but, I do get very frustrated when I buy a music track that is so restricted that I can't even copy it to my phone to hear away from my PC. Hope my response is helpful to you and here's hoping I haven't started a mad discussion on this topic about legalities etc <smile>! Cheers. Paul Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distribute them or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 12 January 2009 16:08 To: talks-uk Subject: [talks-uk] Music file types Sorry if this message is more appropriate for another list. When transfering music from my PC to my phone, I find that some files when converted to MP3 still don't play. I am using an E51, but have tried this on a couple of handsets. When I copy files from iTunes they are usually in M4 A or B or P, so I convert them to MP3 using Goldwave before transfering them. Some play fine and some don't. Would this be because they are itunes purchases and therefore can't be manipulated through GoldWave? Though I have converted and used other iTunes purchases. I would be greatful if anyone has any suggestions. Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3759 (20090112) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com