Hi Barbara, You equally give it a go with Window-Eyes and without the scripts. I think you will now be surprised since 7.01. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 08:00 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types Give it a go Andy without the scripts, I just find them a lot easier and I'm a bit impatient, so I can work a lot faster. Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types > Thanks Barbara - I'm a bit reluctant to pay 35 quid[not that I take > anything away from the deserving cause of the script writers] for software > to browse a site that really should be accessible in the first place, if > they want my custom, they should know that music is very important to lots > of blind customers, and they are potentially missing a sizable chunk of > the market by restricting our ability to buy from them. However, from what > Steve is saying, the site is more blind friendly these days, so maybe > I'll take a look <smile> - > > Andy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:07 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types > > >> Hi Andy >> >> They are scripts that make iTunes accessible for JAWS users and they work >> extremely well. They cost £35.00 and they are tied to your JAWS serial >> number, so you can load them on as many machines as you have that version >> of JAWS authorised on. To find out more go to: >> www.tandt-consultancy.com >> >> Barbara >> >> >> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of >> businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and >> advisory organisations: >> www.barkingbabs.co.uk >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:13 PM >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types >> >> >>> Barbara - JTunes? Where from and for how much? - >>> >>> Andy >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:03 PM >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types >>> >>> >>>> With the latst release of jTunes iTunes is a breeze. >>>> >>>> Barbara >>>> >>>> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of >>>> businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and >>>> advisory organisations: >>>> www.barkingbabs.co.uk >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:01 PM >>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types >>>> >>>> >>>>> Steve - isn't Itunes still a pain to access? 7Digital has always been >>>>> pretty strait forward for me - >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:56 PM >>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Mark, >>>>>> >>>>>> So does iTunes. Better quality too. >>>>>> >>>>>> All the best >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Mark Brett >>>>>> Sent: Monday 12 January 2009 17:09 >>>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to let you know that amazon uk do downloads that dont have any >>>>>> drm >>>>>> protection on them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark Brett >>>>>> >>>>>> This e-mail was produced on a Nokia N82 >>>>>> >>>>>> E-mail: markbrett@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Home: 08712221267 >>>>>> Fax: 08704422678 >>>>>> SMS: 07962432222 >>>>>> Mobile: 08713159900 and 07092226226 >>>>>> >>>>>> -original message- >>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Music file types >>>>>> From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Date: 12/01/2009 16:47 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Barbara >>>>>> >>>>>> I would think it is as you suggested. That you can't convert them >>>>>> because >>>>>> they originate through Itunes. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am surprised that you are able to convert some from that source and >>>>>> not >>>>>> others. I believe that Itunes is very strict with their DRM (Digital >>>>>> Rights >>>>>> Management). DRM can be more strict on some files than others >>>>>> anyway. e.g. >>>>>> You would be able to copy some files to a certain device and there >>>>>> would be >>>>>> a set amount of times you could do this whilst other levels of DRM >>>>>> may >>>>>> restrict you to one PC and one device such as an Ipod. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have heard that a work around is that if you burn a CD through >>>>>> Itunes or >>>>>> equivalent and then rip the CD through Windows media player or >>>>>> equivalent, >>>>>> that the ripped tracks can be copied without the DRM limitations. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have had mixed results with this too so, you might want to try it >>>>>> to see >>>>>> what happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> I say this as someone who does not recommend or support any type of >>>>>> illegal >>>>>> file sharing etc but, I do get very frustrated when I buy a music >>>>>> track that >>>>>> is so restricted that I can't even copy it to my phone to hear away >>>>>> from my >>>>>> PC. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope my response is helpful to you and here's hoping I haven't >>>>>> started a mad >>>>>> discussion on this topic about legalities etc <smile>! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul Hopkins - Manager >>>>>> >>>>>> (All Formats) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Queen Alexandra College >>>>>> >>>>>> Court Oak Road >>>>>> >>>>>> Harborne >>>>>> >>>>>> BIRMINGHAM >>>>>> >>>>>> B17 9TG >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tel: >>>>>> >>>>>> 0121 428 5018 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fax: >>>>>> >>>>>> 0121 428 5048 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> E-mail: >>>>>> >>>>>> allformats@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Web: >>>>>> >>>>>> www.allformats.org.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for >>>>>> Access by >>>>>> People with a Visual Impairment. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ***** >>>>>> >>>>>> Confidentiality and Disclaimer: >>>>>> >>>>>> This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only >>>>>> and >>>>>> may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email >>>>>> and >>>>>> its attachments have come to you in error you must take no action >>>>>> based on >>>>>> them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distribute them or >>>>>> disclose their >>>>>> contents to any other person. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. >>>>>> >>>>>> Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do >>>>>> not >>>>>> relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be >>>>>> understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. >>>>>> >>>>>> ***** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _____ >>>>>> >>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson >>>>>> Sent: 12 January 2009 16:08 >>>>>> To: talks-uk >>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Music file types >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry if this message is more appropriate for another list. When >>>>>> transfering >>>>>> music from my PC to my phone, I find that some files when converted >>>>>> to MP3 >>>>>> still don't play. I am using an E51, but have tried this on a couple >>>>>> of >>>>>> handsets. When I copy files from iTunes they are usually in M4 A or B >>>>>> or P, >>>>>> so I convert them to MP3 using Goldwave before transfering them. Some >>>>>> play >>>>>> fine and some don't. Would this be because they are itunes purchases >>>>>> and >>>>>> therefore can't be manipulated through GoldWave? Though I have >>>>>> converted and >>>>>> used other iTunes purchases. I would be greatful if anyone has any >>>>>> suggestions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Barbara >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of >>>>>> businesses >>>>>> owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory >>>>>> organisations: >>>>>> www.barkingbabs.co.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >