I have decided to leave this list and would like to thank everyone for their support. The reason why I am leaving is that I am leaving in total disgust. I understand that a very worthy member of the list has now decided to leave the list following a lot of contraversy on this list which appeared to be on-going and has even infiltrated the talksusers international list. I hope someone on the list is big enough to deal with the offending parties if they have access to said individuals and I do not refer to the individual who has left the list and who se ls talks. Eleanor