Yes, I know they do, but can't find anyone else for price comparison and/or to know more detail. (For example, can an individual upgrade the Captain's firmware?
-- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: "Scott C" <castledine10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Talks List Talks List" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten
cobolt sell it -----Original Message----- From: Carol Pearson - Email Address: carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 26/03/2010 11:47 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten So you're not reselling yet, or at all? -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: KaptenHi Carol, I got it as a sample, with a view to mainly reselling it. No, there are no real demos of it that I know of at present. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: Friday 26 March 2010 11:16 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten Steve, Where did you purchase it and what price are we looking at? Do you know of any podcasts, where people are actually doing a route? -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:00 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten > Hi Eleanor, > > Because the unit has built in AGPS as well as a GPS > receiver, I am suspecting that the unit they tested > didn't have the most up to date firmware, or the most > up to date AGPS data. Can't be sure of that though. > > Also bear in mind we have had a few updates since that > review was written. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Eleanor Burke > Sent: Wednesday 24 March 2010 09:42 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten > > Why would cobalt be selling it if it did not work is > what I wonder. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:15 AM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten > > > Hi Eleanor, > > I believe you. I am also having no problems with > Kapten, so they either had > a faulty unit, or it must have been timed from first > fix. > > Either way, the test is completely inaccurate compared > to my Kapten and my > findings with it. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: Monday 22 March 2010 22:25 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten > > Oh well Neil, I told you a lady in Ireland was using it > successfully too and > in a rural area. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:50 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten > > > Scott, > > Where are you living in the UK? When Mike May and I > tested extensively the > Kapten we had terrible trouble getting it to maintain a > GPS lock in London, > literally waiting up to 30 minutes at a time, only to > have it lose it again > minutes later. > > I'm completely staggered that you've got it to work on > a bus. How are you > holding it, in your hand or in a pocket, any chance > it's an open top bus! :) > smile. > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Scott C > Sent: 22 March 2010 11:19 > To: Talks List Talks List > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten > > Everything comes pre loaded so I've never used it to be > honest with you. > > Guess I'll have to wen there's a software update or > something but as yet it > worked out of the box so to speak. > > Ta Scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: darren_4æg_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email > Address: darren_4æg_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent On: 22/03/2010 10:51 > Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: > talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten > > Hi, thanks. What about the software that comes with it > how easy is that to > use and what about the kapsys my space? > -original message- > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten > From: "Scott C" <castledine10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 22:03:2010 10.30 am > > Yep. You just hold it and say where am I to it and as > long as it has GPS > coverage It'll tell you what road your on and what > number your at ETC. > > Like you are at 115 west road. You can also K tag > points like bus stops and > the like and ask it to plot a root to the K tag you > saved. > > I find on a bus it keeps better GPS coverage than I > ever got with WFA. > > Ta Scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: darre4æn_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email > Address: darre4æn_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent On: 22/03/2010 09:43 > Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: > talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Kapten > > How do you mean it will tell you where you are on a bus > can you explain > further with that? > -original message- > Subject: [talks-uk] Kapten > From: "Scott C" <castledine10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 22:03:2010 9.10 am > > I both have and use the Kapten and like it. > > I'll start by saying though it's no Wfa. > > It doesn't have a around me view for a start. Also > it'll tell you to turn > in 50m but it doesn't tell you things like how many > roads you'll cross > before you get to the right one. > > It does though tell you to turn wen you do get to the > right one. > > I find it very vary accurate and in terms of can I turn > it on and get from A > to B with it? > > Yes I can. > > The one thing it seems to better for me than WFA is let > me know where I am > on a bus. > > It can't search by post coed and that's a down side > also again no around me > view. > > I'd also like a where am I button rather than keep > asking it out loud, but > again I'd say WFA it shore isn't, but it does work and > will get you to a > point that you want. Well it does for me anyway. > > Ta Scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Darren Harris - Email Address: > darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent On: 21/03/2010 12:07 > Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: > talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > > i only know him over emails. hey did you by chance go > to linden lodge > school? > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Saqib > Sent: 21 March 2010 12:05 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > Yes he has both. You may know him. His name is Scott C. > My Twitter page is www.twitter.com/saqib1975 > MSN Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx > > From: Darren Harris > <mailto:darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, > March 21, 2010 11:48 AM > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > > hi, > > is this friend a wfa user as well? if so can he make a > good comparison > between the 2? > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Saqib > Sent: 21 March 2010 11:22 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > Hi Darren. A friend of mine has trialed this Capten > device and he tells me > that it works very well and he can't figgure out why > it's received negative > reviews. > My Twitter page is www.twitter.com/saqib1975 > MSN Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx > > From: Darren Harris > <mailto:darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, > March 21, 2010 10:59 AM > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > > hi, > > well as much as i want to see the WFA petition get > somewhere and posatively, > it is a great product no matter how much people have > spent on it, it would > be a shame to see it fall like this. equally, i also > have to think about > this from my personal perspective as well. i am a gps > user and as such i'm > not going to go without a gps. equally i'm not prepared > to pay the stupid > prices demanded by the blindness world either. > certainly not before i've > looked at the alternatives. right now as it stands i > have time to look > around as has already been mentioned, we aren't going > to lose wfa until > sometime next year. so really people we shouldn't be > idle on this either. be > active when it comes to the petition yes and spread the > word but equally > don't rely on it as a form of rescue either because > that may not happen at > all with all the will in the world. sorry but i'm just > being realistic here. > > i've been reading up on other gps devices including the > kapten from kapsys. > now before everybody jumps on the band waggan by saying > this has already > been reviewed by mike may, well here's the point. he's > not going to review > it posatively is he. for the simple reason that he has > his own company to > think about so he's hardly likely to review it in a > fair manner. think about > it, he's not likely to say that this is a wonderful > device and that > everybody should go and purchase it when he's got the > likes of the trekker > to think about. considering that the trekker is almost > 10 times as expensive > as the kapten is he's going to try playing it down. so > am going to get a > propper look at it myself. which as we speak i'm trying > to organize this > with my local adaptive tech stockest who happens to > sell it and who isn't > too far from me either. > > having been a power user of WFA for almost 2 years, i > have a good idea as to > what i myself need from a gps unit so i can make a good > comparison between > the 2. the thing with the kapten is that it's been > designed from the ground > up to be usable without a screen. which perfectly falls > right within our > level of requirement. whether this be by accident or > design doesn't matter > the simple fact is that it does. so my thinking here is > that really people > shouldn't be taking the word of 1 man as absolute > especially when said > individual has his own business interests to mind. > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Hussein Patwa > Sent: 21 March 2010 10:40 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > Hi, > > Very well put Ibrahim. Now that the news is known, it > is time to look at > what to do about it constructively and then look to the > future. At the end > of the day though, I believe this has to be the choice > for the individual. > Some may feel it's not worth the hassle, but I would > advocate that if one > doesn't try, one would never know. > > I'd just like to see the dealer's response to your > comments. Obviously this > will have an economic impact on them, so one could ask > whether or not they > themselves would be considering an action against > Wayfinder. It would > depend if they knowingly sold the licenses on knowing > that their 'shelf > life' as you put it would be severely degraded. The > fact that maps will be > available for a time to come is largely irrelevant. > It's either the whole > pie or none at all. > > _______________________________________ > Have a pleasant day, > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > Hussein. > > Hussein Patwa > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > Web: <http://www.patwanet.co.uk www.patwanet.co.uk > My Blog: <http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > Find me on Facebook: > <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu > Sent: 21 March 2010 09:56 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > > Hi. > > I'd just like to add that it might be possible for > those who bought the > product very recently to get a refund of their money or > a significant > portion of their money back. If the product was > purchased before the > announcement of its discontinuation was made public, it > might be possible to > argue that the lifetime part of the contract can not be > honoured. > Furthermore, wayfinder themselves stopped selling > licenses for their entire > product line late last year anticipating this change, > there by significantly > undervalueing the access licenses that distributors may > have in ready stock. > Distributors should be thinking about compensating > those customers who > weren't aware that they were purchasing a product which > as it turns out has > a very limited shelf life and to which the customer > would have had no > knowledge of this before purchase. > > All the best, Ibrahim. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hussein Patwa <mailto:talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:32 AM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > > Hi, > > Whereas I completely understand where those of you that > lost money are > coming from, this is a simple question of economics > from the company's > perspective. It's just not viable to trade in an arena > with such a > relatively small consumer base and where price > sensitivity is high. On the > plus side, this is an area that is becoming of growing > interest to all > consumers, and by that very nature will encourage > innovation and change. > Therefore, whereas it's true that many products are not > totally accessible > to the visually impaired by design at present, this is > likely to change as > the withdrawal of WFA will if anything spur creativity > and drive to 'fill > the void' if you will. > > Sorry, I'm not trying to fling aside the concerns over > financial loss > suffered by existing customers, but I just wish people > would look at the > situation from both sides of the fence. This is > actually a positive > development if you take the time to look outside the > box. > > OK, that's my business insight shared for the day. > > _______________________________________ > Have a pleasant day, > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > Hussein. > > Hussein Patwa > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > Find me on Facebook: > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Paul Cutress > Sent: 20 March 2010 21:08 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > > that's all very well, but some of us like me, for > example have only had my > WFA licence for about 2 months!, so when the product is > discontinued, what > about all the money we have wasted! £240.00 is a lot > of money just to thro > away, are many people more to the point going to be > able to trust the market > in quite the same way? I ask you?, and how can we go > main stream, when talks > doesn't work with the alternatives. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Saqib <mailto:Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:01 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > > Hi Darren. Quite a number of us have not only > considered it as an > alternative. We are already using it with great > success. Although I feel for > the loss of WFA and can sympothise with other people I > feel its time for us > to go mainstreem. I haven't had the WFA product but > I've had the opportunity > to trial the software. I can understand how much info > will be taken away > from the user when the product finally is discontinued > and that is where my > sympothy lies as using another product like Ovi Maps > will feel like making > the best of a bad job with very little tools. Having > said all this it's time > to explore the market and embrace new products and > ideas. My Twitter page is www.twitter.com/saqib1975 > MSN Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx > > From: Darren Harris > <mailto:darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, > March 20, 2010 11:37 AM > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > > it's great reading about all of this but is it > realistically accessible? i > mean is it something that we can viably consider as an > alternative? > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu > Sent: 19 March 2010 20:48 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > Hi Hussein and Saqib. > > Would it be possible to use the talks icon labeller to > label these icons? > > All the best, Ibrahim. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hussein Patwa <mailto:talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:26 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full > interface description > > Hi, > > Thank you very much for doing this. This will be of > great use to a lot of > people I?m sure. Actually it ties in to an idea I have > been sitting on for > some time which I will write you about off list. > > Best, > > _______________________________________ > Have a pleasant day, > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > Hussein. > > Hussein Patwa > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > Find me on Facebook: > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Saqib > Sent: 19 March 2010 17:56 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Nokia Ovi Maps3.3 full interface > description > > Nokia Ovi Maps 3.3 main menu description. > > This description is for the new Nokia Maps 3.3 main > menu interface. > > Usually when you open the application you are greted > with the main menu > which consists of 10 icons. There are two rows of 4 > icons which are > displayed on the screen and a further 2 which can be > seen at the bottom left > of the screen. The display almost looks like a 4-4-2 > formation. For those > who follow football will know what I?m relating to. > > When you first open the Ovi Maps 3.3 app the drive icon > is highlighted. The > drive icon is located on the left of the screen, second > one down from the > top left icon. If you select this drive icon you will > be presented with a > further 3 icons. The highlighter will be on the first > of the 3 icons > presented which is on the left of the other two icons. > The first icon is > called drive home in this submenu. Selecting this will > prompt the app to > start navigation to your home location. > > The second icon in this sub menu is called Set > Destination. Pressing select > on this will bring up a accessible menu where you can > select an option of > your choice. These choices consist of History, > Favourites, Search and > finally From Map. The From Map is the 4th option. > > The third and final icon from this Drive submenu is > called Map. If you > select this you will be shown a Map view of your > current location. From this > Map you can press select and you will then be presented > with a accessible > menu. The first of these options is Show Details.This > will give you further > information in text so You will know exactly where you > are currently > standing. For example a name of the road and the number > of the property in > which you may be standing by. Second option is Share > location. Third option > is Save Place. 4th option is Send. I have now covered > the drive section of > Ovi Maps 3.3. > > > My Position Icon > From the main icon screen remember when I pointed out > that the highlighter > is stationed on the Drive icon in which I have > described in detail above. > Above this icon is the My position icon which is > situated on the top left of > the screen. It?s the first icon in the first row of > icons. To get to this > you just arrow up once from the Drive icon. With in > this map view you can > hit select to bring up an accessible menu. These > consist of Show > Details,Share Location, Save Place and the final option > in the list is Send. > > > Find Places > The Find Places icon is the second icon in from the top > left next to the My > Position Icon. Pressing select on this will bring up a > search box. Once you > type in your search you should be presented with a > result of your search. > > Share Location > The Share Location Icon is the third icon in the top ro > after the Find > Places icon. You will have to create a Nokia account to > take advantage of > this feature. > > Favourites > The Favourites Icon is the 4th and last icon in the top > row. This is on the > right of the Share Location icon. Pressing select on > this will bring up the > Favourites menu. The options here are Sincronise with > Ovi, Places, Routs and > Create New Collection. > > Second row of 4 icons description > The First option in this row of icons is the Drive > option. I have covered > this earlier on in this document. > > Walk > The Walk option resides next door to the Drive icon. > Selecting this option > will bring up a submenu of three icons. The first icon > is Walk Home. This > will trigger the navigation mode and you will be ready > to outtake your > journey on foot. Icon 2 is the Set Destination option. > From heare you can > select an address from a previous history or > favourites. There are also > options to search or select from map. As the map it > self is inaccessible I > think this option is not applicable for the VI user. > The final option in the > Walk submenu is help. Sadly this is also inaccessible. > > Weather > The Weather icon is the third icon in the second row > and this is > inaccessible. > > Events > The Events Icon is the final icon in the second row of > four. This feature is > also inacfcessible. > > Third row of 2 icons > The third row which is the bottom row has two icons. > Both are inaccessible. > The first is called Loanly Plannet and the neighbouring > icon is called > Michelin. > > I hope this description is a help to those who are > using the application. > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus signature > database 4958 (20100319) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus signature > database 4958 (20100319) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus signature > database 4961 (20100320) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus signature > database 4961 (20100320) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus signature > database 4961 (20100320) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus signature > database 4961 (20100320) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, > version of virus signature > database 4969 (20100323) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, > version of virus signature > database 4969 (20100323) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, > version of virus signature database 4972 (20100324) > __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, > version of virus signature database 4972 (20100324) > __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4976 (20100326) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4976 (20100326) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com
