Interesting, Steve. Keep us posted. -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: Steve Nutt To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Just curious, how helpful is a Braille display really? > Hi Carol, > > NinePoint Systems can be found here:- > > http://www.ninepoint-systems.at/index-en.html > > I have only tried the display for about a week. It took > me some getting used to, but they have a nice interface > to the phone's calendar and notepad. They have a note > taker for the phone called Oxygen. > > I think we will be selling them from January, but not yet > sure of prices. > > They also do some very interesting modular Braille > displays, that clip onto each other. So for example, you > can buy two twenties and make a forty. This means you > can just take a twenty with you, and leave the other at > home, then clip them both together when you want a longer > display. This is called the CeBra. A fascinating > company I think and one to watch. > > All the best > > Steve > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol > Pearson > Sent: Saturday 19 December 2009 12:18 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Just curious, how helpful is a > Braille display really? > > Hi Steve, > > What's this from "Nine Point Systems?" I'm finding it > difficult to locate the said display. Can you give me an > URL please, and tell me how you find the display, > assuming you're speaking from the experience of having > tried it ... > > -- > Carol > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: Steve Nutt > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:02 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Just curious, how helpful is a > Braille display really? > > > Hi, > > > > For me, it is just nice to be able to read and write > > texts, without having to have headphones on and in > > private. > > > > You also probably haven't seen many Braille displays > > like the Esys 12, which is tiny and fits in one hand. > > I use the 12 quite often with Talks. > > > > Nine Point Systems have also just brought out The > > NinePoint which has eight cells and is even smaller. > > > > Also, a phone is not just a phone nowadays, I use > > Twiiter, Facebook, and I even read text on them. Speech > > is nice, but it is also nice to be literate with Braille > > and know how to spell stuff. > > > > The other nice thing about Braille displays is when > > people send you texts with C U L8R. Speech makes a real > > mess of that, but it is instantly obvious with Braille. > > > > Having said all this, I don't go around with my display > > all the time indoors, but when I am travelling, I am > > never without it. > > > > All the best > > > > Steve > > > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > Hussein Patwa > > Sent: Saturday 19 December 2009 11:45 > > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [talks-uk] Just curious, how helpful is a > > Braille display really? > > > > Hi, > > > > I hope no-one minds my asking this question. I don't > > want to cause offence, however I've never had the > > opportunity to ask someone this in person and I'm > > genuinely interested to know. > > > > How much does having a Braille display really help with > > practical use of a cell phone? I'm thinking not only > > from the portability perspective, but also as phones are > > still rarely used as primary communication devices other > > than for making calls of course. Plus they are more > > mobile so you'd have to take the Braille display > > everywhere with you. I'm assuming it isn't small enough > > to be operable entirely one-handed as a cell phone is. > > > > If I use a PC as a parallel. I know several people who > > prefer to use a Braille display with their PC > > particularly for tasks such as programming or > > mathematics, as they find it more practical rather than > > the tedious task of having the speech repeat the same > > thing over and over again, or speak out every > > punctuation mark or symbol. 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