[talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...

  • From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:46:15 +0100

Jackie.

It doesn't quite give you more, but it acts as an advice system, you say
you're going to London and it will tell you what's good in town at the
moment, where's hot to eat, then you can call those places right from within
Access.



---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav

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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 27 September 2009 18:30
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...

Hi Jackie,

City Guide is an add-on for WFA. I believe it increases the number of POIs
you get in a city.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 27 September 2009 18:27
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...

Hi Ibrahim

Forgive my ignorance, but what is City Guide, and how is it better than WFA,
or what does it do, more to the point, that WFA doesn't?  Just curious as I
know Ian will ask me these questions. 


Kind regards,
 
J
 
 
Jackie Cairns
cairnsplace@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 27 September 2009 17:33
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...

Hi Neil.

Well now, I've been trying to get city guide for ages.  How is it obtained 
and accessed?  Do we have to contact you for purchasing?

All the best, Ibrahim.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...


Eleanor,

That was Wayfinder Cities Guide, it is part of WF Access, you can still get
it.



---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav

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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 25 September 2009 22:48
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...

What I think is fantastic was something Paul Hopkins tld us about once on
the list or maybe it was the WFA list. He had some programme (I do not think

one can get it now) but it told him all sorts of things like the cafes etc
around him.  I'd have loved that.  Paul seems to be abscent from the list
these days.

Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Brown" <matthew_brown@xxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:23 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...


> Because its voice in, voice out! There's no screen!
>
> It does sound very cool actually, being an MP3 player, bluetooth enabled
> so it can be used as the GPS receiver for your mobile phone and provides
> stereo MP3 playback and looks like you can even use the headset to make
> calls as well if I'm reading this right. And it has a 4GB onboard memory
> as well for your MP3 files and map data. It also has an FM radio!
>
> Wow!
>
> On the other hand, because I can't find any real detailed stuff about it,
> I can't be sure how it handles points of interest etc etc. Or indeed any
> of those other advanced features. If all it does is give you A to B, Left,

> Right, continue strait for 2 miles stuff then you can use Maps for that
> much anyway.
>
> Matt
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:10 PM
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>
>> '
>> I'd be intrigued to know how a blind person is supposed to use a stand
>> alone satnav device designed for sighted people.
>> Cheers
>> Alex
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Adrian" <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:54 PM
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>
>>> The kapten is a hardware device not a bit of software, it is made by a
>>> French company and has been available in france for about a year but has
>>> just had a UK version produced as I understand it and goes on sale in
>>> the
>>> next couple of weeks. As it has no screen it should be reasonably
>>> accessible. It works with voice input and voice output and although it
>>> can
>>> be used in a car or on public transport it is intended mainly for
>>> runners
>>> and others sports so not apparently all that reliable when driving.
>>> The product is actually called the Kapsys' Kapten. Note the spellings
>>> before
>>> you start googling.
>>>
>>> Adrian Higginbotham
>>> E: Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Twitter: @AHiggi
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Matt Brown
>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 21:30
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>>
>>> Hi, if you have links to this software that so many of us are going out
>>> and
>>> buying I'd sure apreciate them because I just Googled that and nada!
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:39 PM
>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>>
>>>> It can be used by blind people? Can you give me more information on
>>>> this?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 20:35
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very well said.
>>>>
>>>> I now hear a lot of talk on another list about something called Kaptin,
>>>> which is produced for sighted people but can be used by visually
>>>> impaired.
>>>> Now I wonder what will happen there too as it is cheaper than Wayfinder
>>>> Access and I know many blind peole are going out and purchasing this
>>>> even as
>>>> I write!!!
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:06 PM
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not demanding it to come down massively and agree it is a brilliant
>>>> product but i think that now they have done the breakthrough
>>>> programming
>>>>
>>>> they could consider a reduction as it would result in a huge jump in
>>>> sales.
>>>> Of course there will be alot of people who expect it for free but they
>>>> would
>>>> not be the majority, this is a independence giving program so should be
>>>> paid
>>>> for and most people who own Talks or mobile speak would probably jump
>>>> at
>>>>
>>>> owning it if it was priced more reasonably  like Talks/mobilespebk/WFA
>>>> and
>>>> that has got to be a large amount of people around the world. also if
>>>> they supported more phones sales would increase which would help
>>>> offset the reduction in price (and it must work on more phones as text
>>>> scout
>>>> does, Even Steve said they are being too cautious), they have done all
>>>> this
>>>> excellent hard work making a amazing program but if its too far out of
>>>> the
>>>> reach of the majority who would most likely buy it then there is danger
>>>> that
>>>> someone else will beat them to the mass market which would be a real
>>>> shame
>>>> after all the work they have done.
>>>> -original message-
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: FW: Re: Any more news...
>>>> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: 25/09/2009 6:30 pm
>>>>
>>>> This is an old argument isn't it? Personally I would buy it if it were
>>>> cheaper, but I am not demanding they bring the price down for many
>>>> reasons, most of which have been reiterated on this list numerous
>>>> times.
>>>> It's a matter of judgement for each individual whether their use would
>>>> justify the price. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. If you
>>>> think you will get the use out of it, then save up or buy it on a
>>>> credit
>>>> card. And let's face it, even if the price were lowered many blind
>>>> people would still not buy it as I am afraid many today still expect to
>>>> be given things for free.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs
>>>> Barbara Wilson
>>>> M: 07917710779
>>>> T: 02887784046
>>>> E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Skype: creativeeyes
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "DurDevil" <durdevil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Talks-Uk Email group" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:26 PM
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] FW: Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The money has to be in mass sales - there are hundreds and thousands of
>>>> visually impaired people and even people with other challenges making
>>>> printed material inaccessable. But pricing it like it is limits it to
>>>> people such as a business person who travels alot etc - that is not the
>>>> big sales area for this surely?
>>>>
>>>> -original message-
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>> From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: 25/09/2009 6:07 pm
>>>>
>>>> Hi Neil. I can understand you thinking that K-Reader is well worth the
>>>> price as you travel around alot independently and a tool of this nature
>>>> is a great assistance to your daily tasks and needs. For me £300 would
>>>> be the thresh hold before I would consider such a purchase. I'm
>>>> constantly intouch with sighted people through out the day so I
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> be eager to pay the £650 for the product when there are a set of eyes
>>>> around to borrow most parts of the day. Now I'm not suggesting for one
>>>> minute that the price isn't right. I'm just making the point that
>>>> everyone has their own evaluation on the product according to their
>>>> circumstances. Someone else on this list may well be in a position
>>>> where
>>>> sighted help isn't always an option and they would gladly pay for the
>>>> application. Perhaps I would if I was living alone.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:47 PM
>>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>
>>>>> Darren,
>>>>>
>>>>> KNFB Mobile Reader is I'm afraid well worth the price, I don't want to
>>>>
>>>>> get into a shouting match about this, but when you consider the cost
>>>>> of Kertzvil standard PC software and a scanner, verse that of a phone
>>>>> which can go with
>>>>> you anywhere and read odd shaped products it's well worth every penny.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---Neil Barnfather
>>>>> TalkNav
>>>>>
>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
>>>>> distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
>>>>> delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
>>>>>
>>>>> www.talknav.com
>>>>> www.wayfinderaccess.com
>>>>> Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
>>>>> Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Darren Harris
>>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 16:17
>>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>>
>>>>> Lol with 3 letters gone are they going to reduce the price as well to
>>>>> make it worth buying?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 16:16
>>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Neil
>>>>>
>>>>> K-Reader is now known officially as the software that used to be
>>>>> called K-NFB Reader, least that's my understanding.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>> Braille Specialist
>>>>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
>>>>> Welton House North Wing
>>>>> Summerhouse Road
>>>>> Moulton Park
>>>>> Northampton
>>>>> NN3 6WD
>>>>> Tel: 01604 798024
>>>>> Mob: 07887 883815
>>>>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
>>>>> TalkNav
>>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 14:07
>>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean K Reader or KNFB Reader, they are two different products?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---Neil Barnfather
>>>>> TalkNav
>>>>>
>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
>>>>> distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
>>>>> delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
>>>>>
>>>>> www.talknav.com
>>>>> www.wayfinderaccess.com
>>>>> Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
>>>>> Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 13:39
>>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> I now have the K-Reader on my N86, and will run it alongside my work
>>>>> N82 at the weekend for a comparison.  I love the N86's chunky feel,
>>>>> and the buttons are so much more tactile all round than the N82.
>>>>> Often, customers struggle with the Talks/Menu button on the N82, and
>>>>> the soft key positions.  They shouldn't experience the same issues
>>>>> with the N86 as the buttons are so nicely spaced out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried the FM transmitter, and this works a treat if you keep the
>>>>> phone fairly close to the radio or system you are putting it through.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking forward to spending more time with it and the N82 this
>>>>> weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>> Braille Specialist
>>>>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
>>>>> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
>>>>> NN3 6WD
>>>>> Tel: 01604 798024
>>>>> Mob: 07887 883815
>>>>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
>>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 11:48
>>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jackie,
>>>>>
>>>>> The processor is faster in the N86 than either phone, the camera is
>>>>> obviously better, and if you have tried KNFB Reader on it, you would
>>>>> see that it is miles faster than the N82.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a little heavy in my view, but the butoons on it are just as
>>>>> nice as the N82, if not a bit wider.
>>>>>
>>>>> An all-round good phone, and the battery life is even better than the
>>>>> N82 in my experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> The N79 is pretty good, but it doesn't have the 8MP camera which helps
>>>>
>>>>> KNFB, and KNFB won't let you run it on the N79, I think they are just
>>>>> being paranoid and will have to do something soon, because TextScout
>>>>> is excellent on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>>>>> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:45
>>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> So you've got the N86?  What do you love about it, and how do you
>>>>> think it compares to the N82 and N79?  Really interested in what you
>>>>> have to say.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>> Braille Specialist
>>>>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
>>>>> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
>>>>> NN3 6WD
>>>>> Tel: 01604 798024
>>>>> Mob: 07887 883815
>>>>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
>>>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20
>>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>>
>>>>> No news yet.  But I love my N86.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Matt Brown
>>>>> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08
>>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a point
>>>>
>>>>> where
>>>>>
>>>>> I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be
>>>>> lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes
>>>>> at all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for!
>>>>> Apart from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a whole lot more
>>>>> powerful than the N82 in reality, whereas the N97 is massivo!
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
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