[talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:45:10 +0100
Mat,
From my understanding the manufacturers have already agreed the format for
the cards before they
exist, thus people like Nokia can build future proof devices.
That is how the N97 which came out within weeks of the N86 can both support
32Gb cards.
---Neil Barnfather
TalkNav
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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Matt Brown
Sent: 25 September 2009 15:47
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi, where did you see that? I read that the format of the 32 GB cards is
completely new and readers will have to be constructed to take advantage of
it. In other words they aren't backwards compatible. New card readers will
be able to read older format cards, but older readers won't be able to read
the new multi-layer format cards.
As far as I understand it, the N86 was rolled out too early for the card
reader to be the right type for the next gen memory cards.
Matt
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From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:33 PM
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
> Hi Matt,
>
> At the moment it only supports 16GB, but when 32GB MicroSD cards come out,
> it will support them.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Matt Brown
> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 14:41
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>
> Thing is Neil, I did like the build quality of the N86, but as I doubt
> I'll
> ever be able to afford the KNFB Reader software, the 8 MP camera is
> pointless. I'm more likely to appreciate a huge memory because of all the
> audio files I'm always carrying around with me. If the N86 had the N97's
> memory I'd jump at it! But as far as I know it only supports a 16 GB
> memory
> card, so I wouldn't even be able to expand the memory with the new 32 GB
> cards coming out now!
>
> Very disappointed with the 8 GB internal memory considering the huge 8 MP
> camera they've put on it. I'd have expected a decent size memory because
> pics and vids take up much more room than audio.
>
> Matt
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:13 PM
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>
>> Mat,
>>
>> You are right, the strip I referred to is on the E75 and not the N97.
>>
>> The build quality on the N97 is very good, but no less or more though
>> than
>> the N86.
>>
>> Re iPhone, I think is is a general acceptance that for sighted blind
>> folk,
>> that are able to see the screen to an extent, are able to use it far more
>> so
>> than totals.
>>
>> Re cost saving, that is a relative term, on O2 the iPhone is in excess of
>> £450 or so, yet on contract with O2 you can get an N86 for £50, and Talks
>> full license for £150. This puts the Nokia and Talks combo £250
>> cheaper...
>>
>> Just a thought for you, and of course if the new phone was your second or
>> beyond Talks phone then the saving is even more.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---Neil Barnfather
>> TalkNav
>>
>> TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized
>> distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes
>> delivered
>> direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today?
>>
>> www.talknav.com
>> www.wayfinderaccess.com
>> Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062
>> Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Matt Brown
>> Sent: 25 September 2009 13:22
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>
>> Hi Neil, the build quality is amazing, the memory is unbelievable, I
>> thought
>>
>> the keypad was nice but I think the strange metal strip you're referring
>> to
>> is actually on the new E75 not the N97. I looked at both phones and hated
>> that too.
>>
>> I have heard that the N86 actually has a built in screen reader though?
>> that
>>
>> might be interesting...
>>
>> (Next paragraph refers to IPhone for those of you who don't want to read
>> anything other than Talks and Nokia stuff):
>>
>> To be honest, I personally would jump the Nokia ship and switch to IPhone
>> 3GS immediately if they'd only sort the battery life and Bluetooth issues
>> out, that phone is really amazing! I love the accessibility features
>> they've
>>
>> built in, especially as I do have some small amount of vision so a
>> combination of the speech and the amazingly bright clear screen on the
>> IPhone means its pretty accessible for me. I can for instance, see each
>> icon
>>
>> on the home screen, enough to position my finger accurately on the third
>> from the left for example. So the speech would help me learn that the
>> third
>> from the left is calendar say, then as I got better I'd just
>> automatically
>> tap the third from the left, using my eyes to locate its general position
>> and the speech to confirm I've tapped the right one.
>>
>> I believe the N97's screen is using the same screen technology as IPhone
>> so
>> the display can be set up to look as bright and clear which would benefit
>> me
>>
>> no end!
>>
>> Standing in carphone Warehouse the other day, I went from never holding
>> an
>> IPhone before to sending a text message using the touch screen in less
>> than
>> 5 minutes! And all that accessibility is built in and ready to go at no
>> extra cost! It also gets upgraded every time there's a software update,
>> also
>>
>> at no extra cost!
>>
>> Now I'm certainly not a Mac computer user and think Jaws and Windows
>> offers
>> us the very best solution, but I really think the IPhone may be to
>> handheld
>> coms devices what Windows on a PC is to computing.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:55 PM
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>
>>> Hi Eleanor,
>>>
>>> No, it is a slide phone with a standard keypad with nice buttons.
>>> QWERTY
>>> is
>>> awful in my view and I wouldn't touch it on phones.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 12:46
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>
>>> How much is the N86? Does it have a qwerty keypad?
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:45 AM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Steve
>>>
>>> So you've got the N86? What do you love about it, and how do you think
>>> it compares to the N82 and N79? Really interested in what you have to
>>> say.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>> Braille Specialist
>>> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
>>> Welton House North Wing
>>> Summerhouse Road
>>> Moulton Park
>>> Northampton
>>> NN3 6WD
>>> Tel: 01604 798024
>>> Mob: 07887 883815
>>> www.sightandsound.co.uk
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
>>> Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
>>>
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>> No news yet. But I love my N86.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Matt Brown
>>> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news...
>>>
>>> Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a point
>>> where
>>>
>>> I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be
>>> lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes at
>>> all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for! Apart
>>> from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a whole lot more powerful than
>>> the N82 in reality, whereas the N97 is massivo!
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
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