Mat, The N86 supports 32Gb cards when they come out. ---Neil Barnfather TalkNav TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today? www.talknav.com www.wayfinderaccess.com Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062 Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997 -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Brown Sent: 25 September 2009 14:41 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Thing is Neil, I did like the build quality of the N86, but as I doubt I'll ever be able to afford the KNFB Reader software, the 8 MP camera is pointless. I'm more likely to appreciate a huge memory because of all the audio files I'm always carrying around with me. If the N86 had the N97's memory I'd jump at it! But as far as I know it only supports a 16 GB memory card, so I wouldn't even be able to expand the memory with the new 32 GB cards coming out now! Very disappointed with the 8 GB internal memory considering the huge 8 MP camera they've put on it. I'd have expected a decent size memory because pics and vids take up much more room than audio. Matt -------------------------------------------------- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:13 PM To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... > Mat, > > You are right, the strip I referred to is on the E75 and not the N97. > > The build quality on the N97 is very good, but no less or more though than > the N86. > > Re iPhone, I think is is a general acceptance that for sighted blind folk, > that are able to see the screen to an extent, are able to use it far more > so > than totals. > > Re cost saving, that is a relative term, on O2 the iPhone is in excess of > £450 or so, yet on contract with O2 you can get an N86 for £50, and Talks > full license for £150. This puts the Nokia and Talks combo £250 cheaper... > > Just a thought for you, and of course if the new phone was your second or > beyond Talks phone then the saving is even more. > > > > ---Neil Barnfather > TalkNav > > TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized > distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered > direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today? > > www.talknav.com > www.wayfinderaccess.com > Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062 > Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Matt Brown > Sent: 25 September 2009 13:22 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... > > Hi Neil, the build quality is amazing, the memory is unbelievable, I > thought > > the keypad was nice but I think the strange metal strip you're referring > to > is actually on the new E75 not the N97. I looked at both phones and hated > that too. > > I have heard that the N86 actually has a built in screen reader though? > that > > might be interesting... > > (Next paragraph refers to IPhone for those of you who don't want to read > anything other than Talks and Nokia stuff): > > To be honest, I personally would jump the Nokia ship and switch to IPhone > 3GS immediately if they'd only sort the battery life and Bluetooth issues > out, that phone is really amazing! I love the accessibility features > they've > > built in, especially as I do have some small amount of vision so a > combination of the speech and the amazingly bright clear screen on the > IPhone means its pretty accessible for me. I can for instance, see each > icon > > on the home screen, enough to position my finger accurately on the third > from the left for example. So the speech would help me learn that the > third > from the left is calendar say, then as I got better I'd just automatically > tap the third from the left, using my eyes to locate its general position > and the speech to confirm I've tapped the right one. > > I believe the N97's screen is using the same screen technology as IPhone > so > the display can be set up to look as bright and clear which would benefit > me > > no end! > > Standing in carphone Warehouse the other day, I went from never holding an > IPhone before to sending a text message using the touch screen in less > than > 5 minutes! And all that accessibility is built in and ready to go at no > extra cost! It also gets upgraded every time there's a software update, > also > > at no extra cost! > > Now I'm certainly not a Mac computer user and think Jaws and Windows > offers > us the very best solution, but I really think the IPhone may be to > handheld > coms devices what Windows on a PC is to computing. > > Matt > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:55 PM > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... > >> Hi Eleanor, >> >> No, it is a slide phone with a standard keypad with nice buttons. QWERTY >> is >> awful in my view and I wouldn't touch it on phones. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 12:46 >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... >> >> How much is the N86? Does it have a qwerty keypad? >> >> Eleanor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:45 AM >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... >> >> >> Hi Steve >> >> So you've got the N86? What do you love about it, and how do you think >> it compares to the N82 and N79? Really interested in what you have to >> say. >> >> >> Jackie Cairns >> Braille Specialist >> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd >> Welton House North Wing >> Summerhouse Road >> Moulton Park >> Northampton >> NN3 6WD >> Tel: 01604 798024 >> Mob: 07887 883815 >> www.sightandsound.co.uk >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt >> Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20 >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... >> >> Hi Matt, >> >> No news yet. But I love my N86. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Matt Brown >> Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08 >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news... >> >> Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a point >> where >> >> I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be >> lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes at >> all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for! 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