As a partially sighted person, though registered blind, I would agree with Neil. While I cannot distinguish the icons on the iPhone, they are a great help in assisting with navagation. Just looked at one in the 02 shop.
Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Mat, You are right, the strip I referred to is on the E75 and not the N97. The build quality on the N97 is very good, but no less or more though than the N86. Re iPhone, I think is is a general acceptance that for sighted blind folk, that are able to see the screen to an extent, are able to use it far more so than totals. Re cost saving, that is a relative term, on O2 the iPhone is in excess of £450 or so, yet on contract with O2 you can get an N86 for £50, and Talks full license for £150. This puts the Nokia and Talks combo £250 cheaper... Just a thought for you, and of course if the new phone was your second or beyond Talks phone then the saving is even more. ---Neil Barnfather TalkNav TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility software reseller and authorized distributor of Wayfinder products, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox, why not try TalkNav today? www.talknav.com www.wayfinderaccess.com Telephone from the UK: 0844 412 1062 Telephone outside the UK: +44 161 277 7997 -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Brown Sent: 25 September 2009 13:22 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Hi Neil, the build quality is amazing, the memory is unbelievable, I thought the keypad was nice but I think the strange metal strip you're referring to is actually on the new E75 not the N97. I looked at both phones and hated that too. I have heard that the N86 actually has a built in screen reader though? that might be interesting... (Next paragraph refers to IPhone for those of you who don't want to read anything other than Talks and Nokia stuff): To be honest, I personally would jump the Nokia ship and switch to IPhone 3GS immediately if they'd only sort the battery life and Bluetooth issues out, that phone is really amazing! I love the accessibility features they've built in, especially as I do have some small amount of vision so a combination of the speech and the amazingly bright clear screen on the IPhone means its pretty accessible for me. I can for instance, see each icon on the home screen, enough to position my finger accurately on the third from the left for example. So the speech would help me learn that the third from the left is calendar say, then as I got better I'd just automatically tap the third from the left, using my eyes to locate its general position and the speech to confirm I've tapped the right one. I believe the N97's screen is using the same screen technology as IPhone so the display can be set up to look as bright and clear which would benefit me no end! Standing in carphone Warehouse the other day, I went from never holding an IPhone before to sending a text message using the touch screen in less than 5 minutes! And all that accessibility is built in and ready to go at no extra cost! It also gets upgraded every time there's a software update, also at no extra cost! Now I'm certainly not a Mac computer user and think Jaws and Windows offers us the very best solution, but I really think the IPhone may be to handheld coms devices what Windows on a PC is to computing. Matt -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:55 PM To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news...
Hi Eleanor, No, it is a slide phone with a standard keypad with nice buttons. QWERTY is awful in my view and I wouldn't touch it on phones. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 12:46 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... How much is the N86? Does it have a qwerty keypad? Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Hi Steve So you've got the N86? What do you love about it, and how do you think it compares to the N82 and N79? Really interested in what you have to say. Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 25 September 2009 11:20 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Any more news... Hi Matt, No news yet. But I love my N86. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Brown Sent: Friday 25 September 2009 11:08 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Any more news... Hi, is there any more news about N97 and Talks? I'm getting to a point where I really have to make a decision, N86 or N97! I don't want to be lumbered with an N97 if speech is months and months away if it comes at all, but of the 2 handsets it has the feature set I'm looking for! Apart from the 8 MP camera the N86 doesn't look a whole lot more powerful than the N82 in reality, whereas the N97 is massivo! Matt __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4169 (20090619) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1841 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4169 (20090619) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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