Additional, I didn't explain the battery drain reason. 2.5G bands tend to operate on the 900MHz band width, whereas 3G tends to be up near 1800 / 1900 / 2100MHz, thus double the power massively eating into your battery. This is also why when using 3G your ear get's hotter than when not, you're effectively quite literally frying or cooking your ear. In the UK Vodafone and O2 use the 900MHz bands for 2.5G yet Orange and T-Mobile use 11800MHz fore their 2.5G coverage, this is why again if you use a T-Mobile or Orange phone they get hotter when in use and personally I found I got more head aches when using ~Orange, which I did for a brief period. Now I stick with O2 or Vodafone and this keeps the phone cooler and my head aches are better. Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks List Host TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility and Wayfinder Access dealer / distributor, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox why not use TalkNav today? http://www.talknav.com <http://www.talknav.com/> service@xxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather Sent: 09 July 2009 09:59 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: 2G versus 3G Barbra, For clarity, as I know it's an old conversation, but there's not quite enough info in the responses you've received to bee clear. Firstly, it's not 2G and 3G, it's 2.5G and 3G... phone calls are not affected by either frequency usage, however your battery is significantly, even if you're not using 3G for data, the battery on your phone will be notably reduced in performance by leaving your phone on 3G band selection by default. 2.5G ordinarily in the UK works on the 900MHz band width, although this does change slightly depending on network, phone calls and text messaging SMS are not affected in terms of quality or speed etc in conjunction with band width selection. although personally, I find calls using the 3G bands seem to be a little flatter, some what lacking in depth. 2.5G speeds range up to 86Kbps on the GPRS, general radio packet service speed, up to 386Kbps when increased to the Edge or basic 3G. However 3G can range from 386Kbps to 7.2Mbps, the term 3G is a little varied and it's probably better to say edge which covers all from 86Kbps to 386Kbps, and then you get HSDPA which ranges ordinarily from 1.2Mbps to in most cases up to 3.5Mbps and in certain areas now up to 7.2Mbps. You can also get HSUDA which is synchronous, i.e. the same speed you get down is that which you also get up. Ordinarily with things like ADSL broadband and this is true for mobile broad band speeds, your download speed is the headline figure yet your upload is much slower at more like a tenth of that speed. Edge in the States is also known as UTMS, so if any of you have that on your phone that is what this is. Importantly though here, 3G is only worth it if you're downloading large volume content over the net like music or audio, video etc, for most of us using say mobile sites like Amazon, G-mail or Google itself or the BBC etc, and I repeat the mobile versions of these sites, you do not need to switch really to 3G. Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks List Host TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility and Wayfinder Access dealer / distributor, with product activation codes delivered direct to your mailbox why not use TalkNav today? http://www.talknav.com <http://www.talknav.com/> service@xxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 14 June 2009 16:57 To: talks-uk Subject: [talks-uk] 2G versus 3G Hi I know it is difficult to give specifics, but I just wanted some general feedback. Using Vodafone and I know this depends on network coverage, signal strength etc, but what is the difference between 3G and 2G speeds? If browsing the mobile Web, would 2G be very much slower for downloading webpages and content? Thanks. Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes