I used to take my cane and slam it on their hood or against the side when this happened. Nothing I can really recommend to others, as it is probably dangerous. Chip _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn Evans Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:40 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: why so many pedestrian accidents; was Re: pedestrian/auto accident report yesterday The last time I went to the Senior Center I was crossing seventh and North Monroe. I had my cane out and two cars had pulled around me to turn right onto Monroe. I had just stepped off the curb and was standing in the street. This is just about 2 blocks from the police department. To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:17 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: why so many pedestrian accidents; was Re: pedestrian/auto accident report yesterday I agree with William here: police don't in force the laws regarding wrecklace driving, in my opinion, when it happens as part of a right on red, probably because they turn right on red themselves quite frequently, and figure it could have happened to them. I think it's happening much more often because of cell phones, and other distractions, although the right on red is just designed for accidents to begin with. So, if it's happening a lot more often, and police aren't doing anything about it, it's a dangerous combination! The other times, when a blind pedestrian is involved, I think they automatically just assume the blind person can't see what they're doing, so probably stepped out into traffic at the wrong time. You'd have to have several very vocal witnesses before you could overcome this prejudice. Therefore, I think the driver will seldombe be charged when a blind pedestrian is involved. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of blindwilly Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:36 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: why so many pedestrian accidents; was Re: pedestrian/auto accident report yesterday Erica, I sure hope the driver is not connected with the police or there will be no justice. I have heard that people obey the laws that are convenient to them. Likewise, the police enforce the laws that are convenient for them. William ----- Original Message ----- From: ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: why so many pedestrian accidents; was Re: pedestrian/auto accident report yesterday Chip, I'm hoping that the initiation of the red-light running ticketing program will help flush out the answer here. I certainly think driving behaviors have degraded since the advent of cell phones and especially texting! However, I've also heard law enforcement's argument that they have "more important" things to do than catch speeders, etc. You would think that an increased law enforcement presence would in fact improve drivers' behavior. I will say that if my neighborhood is any example, it, sadly, does not. Cops are out in force many, many days in the school zone near my home... and I see at least 2 cars pulled ever each day for speeding in the well-marked school zone. So, for all the days and years the school and school zone have been there, and all the days and weeks the cops have been there, apparently the drivers that frequent this area keep believing "They won't catch me." On a related matter, below I have pasted an update to the hit and run accident on Madison street over the weekend. SUV connected with Saturday hit-and-run identified published Sept. 27 11:17am An SUV traveling near Florida State University's campus was identified by an FSU police officer as the vehicle connected with Saturday's hit-and-run incident on West Madison Street, reported Officer David McCranie, spokesman for the Tallahassee Police Department, in a news release. Kathy Raynor, 59, was struck by a vehicle while walking along the 700 block of West Madison Street, the release said. Witnesses said that the SUV drove off after hitting Raynor. They described the SUV as a black newer model, possibly a Jeep Grand Cherokee, with tinted windows, black rims and damage near the driver's-side headlight. According to the release, the SUV was seized after an FSU police officer matched it to hit-and-run witnesses' descriptions. TPD's traffic homicide unit is investigating the SUV. Raynor suffered serious injuries and is currently in serious, but stable condition at Tallahassee Memorial Hospital, the release stated.