[tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware

  • From: governor staten <govsta@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:11:21 -0500

All skype does is full-duplex mode. voice quality is very good. i know there are scripts for jaws with skype. not sure about window-eyes though. it can also transfer files, text and video chat. the teamtalk server idea is what sets it apart. if you want to go onto a public server, you can. if you want to setup your own server, you can do that too.




On 12/21/2009 10:10 AM, Allison and Chip Orange wrote:
Hi William,

everyone who knows them both, on the blind technology news group, says
TeamTalk is *much* better, with much better voice quality.  I'm not sure
Skype has the full duplex mode anyway, but TeamTalk was the one recommended.
It also has the file transfer ability, and video for those who can see, but
I think it's the voice quality that gets it recommended.

I just went online and was part of a voice conference, and I have to say
it's dead easy; including the nice "voice activated" mode, where you just
talk, like you do on a phone, without having to push anything, if you're in
a quiet room.  there's even a feature where it will simulate a "location"
for each voice, using 3d stereo sound, so it sounds like people are in a
room around you in different places.  don't know how useful that is, we'll
see.

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of blindwilly
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:49 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware

Chip,

Would scype work:  it sounds like the same.

William
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denyece Roberts msw"<peace05@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:<tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:32 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware


Well now! I don't feel bad.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Easy Talk"<easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:<tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 5:17 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware


Chip,  We don't sell any with built in microphone except the Bluetooth
ones. I have downloaded and installed the software but so far I haven't
figured out how to select a server and connect.

Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Allison and Chip Orange"<acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:<tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:40 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware


Hi Yvonne,

yes, it seems to be compatible with all major screen readers.

as for what it does: it lets you put on a headset with a microphone, and
be
part of an online conference, or meeting, or chat.  if you have a webcam
you
can actually see the other people as well as talk and listen to them.

what's unusual about the way it handles voice is that many people can
talk
at the same time; that means you don't have to wait for the other person
to
stop talking, before you can ask a question or say something.  if you
want
them to know you didn't understand what they just said, you can actually
say
it right away.  that's called "full duplex" sound, and we usually only
get
it on a telephone conference call, but this software, TeamTalk, has it.

if there's a conference, and you don't own a microphone, you can still
join
in and listen, and if you have a question, you can type it in in the
text
message box of TeamTalk (which I may call "the client" sometimes).

if you or anyone else has a file you'd like everyone to be able to have,
there's a place where the person with the file can "share it", and that
allows everyone else to download if they want.

I haven't used TeamTalk myself, but when I asked others who have a lot
of
experience with this kind of software what I should use to go about
holding
group classes or meetings, where people could speak using "full duplex",
TeamTalk is what was recommended the most.

I think it's very important to have full duplex, as it allows people to
quickly indicate, while everyone is thinking about the point, that they
have
a question or a disagreement.  it allows for much more natural
conversational flow.

and TeamTalk has no limit on how many users may participate at once, and
it's free!!!

so, if we can get it to work, we'll have a great tool for learning from
one
another, and for just getting together to talk to one another.

blind people are very socially isolated as compared to sighted people,
and
it's because of the transportation issue.  I hate it that we can't just
open
up TABI for a free-for-all chat to help with this issue, but we can't,
so
something like this is the obvious solution.  and, while buying a
headset
can cost $50, it's much more relaxing and enjoyable to be able to talk
with
your friends than to type to them.  and there aren't nearly so many
emotional misunderstandings, which can so easily creep in to an email
conversation.

I can't tell you how many times I've gotten angry, or made someone else
angry, needlessly, because the emotional content of what they or I was
trying to say got lost.  and so, an effort to help one another turned
into
an argument unnecessarily.  I think hearing the other person's voice
will
keep all that kind of thing from happening.

so, please, everyone give it a try; buy a headset if you can (Robert, do
you
have ideas, or do you sell headsets?).

I bought mine from emicrophones.com because the owner helped me pick out
something which plugged into my audio card rather than being a usb
headset,
and wasn't that expensive.  it's a good site if you want help in picking
something out, and he carries a huge variety of headsets.

don't forget, if you own a headset for a cell phone, such as a bluetooth
headset, and you have bluetooth on your pc, that should work fine.
there
are adapters you can buy for the plugs on a phone headset to allow you
to
plug it into the pc audio card.  and of course, you don't need a
headset; if
you have earphones and a microphone that should work.

hth,

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Yvonne Britton
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:49 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware

Hi, Chip
A lot of the technical terms I don't understand but I wanted to  know if
this software is compatible with J. A. W. S. and System Access? And
could
tell which download I am suppose to do. A lot of the technical words I
don't
understand so if you can explain it where I can better understand I
would
appreciate I am sure I am not the only who can not some of these things.
Yvonne
GOD LOVES YOU AND SO DO I!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allison and Chip Orange"<acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:<tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:33 PM
Subject: [tabi] online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware


Hi all,

this message is about a new freeware software package, with a
specially designed accessible version, for holding online meetings and
audio/video chats.  the software is TeamTalk version 4, and their
special accessible version download page is:

http://bearware.dk/index.php?section=products&pageid=tt4accessibility#
hdrmen
u

it allows full duplex chatting (that is like a phone conference call
where one person can interrupt another, without having to push a
button to talk).
it also allows the use of web-cams, so sighted users can have a video
chat.
and finally, it allows file sharing among conference members.


I'm wondering about holding a TABI series of chats or classes, if we
can get enough people to download and install TeamTalk.  if you don't
have a microphone, then you can stil listen to a meeting, and type
your questions via the text message feature of the client.

so everyone, as time allows, please download and install TeamTalk, and
read a little of the help.  and start thinking what topics we might
use to build an online meeting around:

are their computer topics you'd like someone to teach more about?  how
to improve your finances and money situation?  argue out the star
metro situation?

Are there topics you'd like to offer to teach/organize?


anyone can request, or be the organizer, of any online meeting, and we
don't have to arrange transportation!


enjoy,

Chip

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