[tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware

  • From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:10:49 -0500

Hi William,

everyone who knows them both, on the blind technology news group, says
TeamTalk is *much* better, with much better voice quality.  I'm not sure
Skype has the full duplex mode anyway, but TeamTalk was the one recommended.
It also has the file transfer ability, and video for those who can see, but
I think it's the voice quality that gets it recommended.

I just went online and was part of a voice conference, and I have to say
it's dead easy; including the nice "voice activated" mode, where you just
talk, like you do on a phone, without having to push anything, if you're in
a quiet room.  there's even a feature where it will simulate a "location"
for each voice, using 3d stereo sound, so it sounds like people are in a
room around you in different places.  don't know how useful that is, we'll
see.

Chip
 

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of blindwilly
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:49 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware

Chip,

Would scype work:  it sounds like the same.

William
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denyece Roberts msw" <peace05@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:32 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware


> Well now! I don't feel bad.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 5:17 AM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware
>
>
>> Chip,  We don't sell any with built in microphone except the Bluetooth 
>> ones. I have downloaded and installed the software but so far I haven't 
>> figured out how to select a server and connect.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:40 PM
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware
>>
>>
>>> Hi Yvonne,
>>>
>>> yes, it seems to be compatible with all major screen readers.
>>>
>>> as for what it does: it lets you put on a headset with a microphone, and

>>> be
>>> part of an online conference, or meeting, or chat.  if you have a webcam

>>> you
>>> can actually see the other people as well as talk and listen to them.
>>>
>>> what's unusual about the way it handles voice is that many people can 
>>> talk
>>> at the same time; that means you don't have to wait for the other person

>>> to
>>> stop talking, before you can ask a question or say something.  if you 
>>> want
>>> them to know you didn't understand what they just said, you can actually

>>> say
>>> it right away.  that's called "full duplex" sound, and we usually only 
>>> get
>>> it on a telephone conference call, but this software, TeamTalk, has it.
>>>
>>> if there's a conference, and you don't own a microphone, you can still 
>>> join
>>> in and listen, and if you have a question, you can type it in in the 
>>> text
>>> message box of TeamTalk (which I may call "the client" sometimes).
>>>
>>> if you or anyone else has a file you'd like everyone to be able to have,
>>> there's a place where the person with the file can "share it", and that
>>> allows everyone else to download if they want.
>>>
>>> I haven't used TeamTalk myself, but when I asked others who have a lot 
>>> of
>>> experience with this kind of software what I should use to go about 
>>> holding
>>> group classes or meetings, where people could speak using "full duplex",
>>> TeamTalk is what was recommended the most.
>>>
>>> I think it's very important to have full duplex, as it allows people to
>>> quickly indicate, while everyone is thinking about the point, that they 
>>> have
>>> a question or a disagreement.  it allows for much more natural
>>> conversational flow.
>>>
>>> and TeamTalk has no limit on how many users may participate at once, and
>>> it's free!!!
>>>
>>> so, if we can get it to work, we'll have a great tool for learning from 
>>> one
>>> another, and for just getting together to talk to one another.
>>>
>>> blind people are very socially isolated as compared to sighted people, 
>>> and
>>> it's because of the transportation issue.  I hate it that we can't just 
>>> open
>>> up TABI for a free-for-all chat to help with this issue, but we can't, 
>>> so
>>> something like this is the obvious solution.  and, while buying a 
>>> headset
>>> can cost $50, it's much more relaxing and enjoyable to be able to talk 
>>> with
>>> your friends than to type to them.  and there aren't nearly so many
>>> emotional misunderstandings, which can so easily creep in to an email
>>> conversation.
>>>
>>> I can't tell you how many times I've gotten angry, or made someone else
>>> angry, needlessly, because the emotional content of what they or I was
>>> trying to say got lost.  and so, an effort to help one another turned 
>>> into
>>> an argument unnecessarily.  I think hearing the other person's voice 
>>> will
>>> keep all that kind of thing from happening.
>>>
>>> so, please, everyone give it a try; buy a headset if you can (Robert, do

>>> you
>>> have ideas, or do you sell headsets?).
>>>
>>> I bought mine from emicrophones.com because the owner helped me pick out
>>> something which plugged into my audio card rather than being a usb 
>>> headset,
>>> and wasn't that expensive.  it's a good site if you want help in picking
>>> something out, and he carries a huge variety of headsets.
>>>
>>> don't forget, if you own a headset for a cell phone, such as a bluetooth
>>> headset, and you have bluetooth on your pc, that should work fine. 
>>> there
>>> are adapters you can buy for the plugs on a phone headset to allow you 
>>> to
>>> plug it into the pc audio card.  and of course, you don't need a 
>>> headset; if
>>> you have earphones and a microphone that should work.
>>>
>>> hth,
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Yvonne Britton
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:49 PM
>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware
>>>
>>> Hi, Chip
>>> A lot of the technical terms I don't understand but I wanted to  know if
>>> this software is compatible with J. A. W. S. and System Access? And 
>>> could
>>> tell which download I am suppose to do. A lot of the technical words I 
>>> don't
>>> understand so if you can explain it where I can better understand I 
>>> would
>>> appreciate I am sure I am not the only who can not some of these things.
>>> Yvonne
>>> GOD LOVES YOU AND SO DO I!!!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:33 PM
>>> Subject: [tabi] online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> this message is about a new freeware software package, with a
>>>> specially designed accessible version, for holding online meetings and
>>>> audio/video chats.  the software is TeamTalk version 4, and their
>>>> special accessible version download page is:
>>>>
>>>> http://bearware.dk/index.php?section=products&pageid=tt4accessibility#
>>>> hdrmen
>>>> u
>>>>
>>>> it allows full duplex chatting (that is like a phone conference call
>>>> where one person can interrupt another, without having to push a
>>>> button to talk).
>>>> it also allows the use of web-cams, so sighted users can have a video
>>>> chat.
>>>> and finally, it allows file sharing among conference members.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering about holding a TABI series of chats or classes, if we
>>>> can get enough people to download and install TeamTalk.  if you don't
>>>> have a microphone, then you can stil listen to a meeting, and type
>>>> your questions via the text message feature of the client.
>>>>
>>>> so everyone, as time allows, please download and install TeamTalk, and
>>>> read a little of the help.  and start thinking what topics we might
>>>> use to build an online meeting around:
>>>>
>>>> are their computer topics you'd like someone to teach more about?  how
>>>> to improve your finances and money situation?  argue out the star
>>>> metro situation?
>>>>
>>>> Are there topics you'd like to offer to teach/organize?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> anyone can request, or be the organizer, of any online meeting, and we
>>>> don't have to arrange transportation!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> enjoy,
>>>>
>>>> Chip
>>>>
>>>> Check out the TABI resource web page at
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>>>>
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