On 9/24/2013 4:17 AM, Matt Presnell wrote: > Well, this is my JMO ! and only my JMO ! I personally don't like the word > disability in most cases ! I rather think most people have a handicap witch > is a lot different! Now this being said as for them stopping people with > true disabilities it is a shame but there is not people out there I think > that really are disable! Most are just handicap in some way! So while I > will agree with this in some cases letting people with true disabilities go > ahead in the front of the line is ok and when I say true disabilities I > mean things like people with a disease that is say killing them and people > that is say little or no function about them or someone that is truly > mental disturbed in some way and so on they should be if they want to give > the choice to go to the front of the line. Now organizations that is taking > a group of people say like children that say have some kind of cancer I > think they should have made arrangement ahead of time with where ever they > are going that they got this group and would like to be speed up to the > front into the place and I think this could be taken care of ahead of time. > It is on the organization to do this and is there fault if they don't do > it! Now as for someone with just a handicap I think we should take our turn > just like anyone else! For example : The blind and visual impaired! We > should not be rushed to the front of the line ahead of everyone just > because we have seeing problem! In fact it should be an insult to ask us to > do so! We should stand in line just like everyone else and when our turn > comes we get in or we buy the ticket or whatever! If us with handicaps > should ever be on par with our un handicap people we must act as if we are > not handicap. In case of the person being blind we should in this case take > our turn when we get it so we are on par with our visual non handicap > persons! I will give an example of what happen to a man that was an insult > and turn out to spoil the whole event: This man was Blind and he and his > seeing wife went to see a movie and they was standing in line to get their > tickets to go in the movie theater . When it came their turn he asked for > two tickets and the person in the booth said I see you have a white cane > and you are blind . So you only need one ticket as we just give you a pass > ! Now the problem is this he is taking his wife out and he want to pay for > a night out. So he say no I prefer to pay just like everyone else ! But the > person in the booth was very consitant and would not take his money for the > other ticket and insisted that he use the pass . Ended up the manager had > to come and he too was insisted that he take the pass. So a great night out > became a night mare and they did not see the movie at all ! All because > someone or someplace wanted to pity us because we had no vision. We could > not be normal because we would not let be normal ! so we or he lost his > chance to be on par with his visual conter part. Now I know some of you > would said heck let's take it is free and not think anything about it. But > was it really free? Think of the long time effect of taking it! Down the > road now companies and other people think poor blind person they got to > have help with everything and cannot do things for his self or enjoy > something as simple as a movie! Just how wrong this is but buy letting our > self not be as normal as possible we can never even come close to normal! > This is for all people with handicaps not just blind people! Like I say > this is my JMO on it! Shame on the people with disabities and handicap that > took part in it. shame on the company that encourage them to do this! > > > > Matt > Matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Easy Talk > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:27 AM > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [tabi] Re: loss of privilege for the disabled at Disney > > If you did that, you would be punishing the wrong company. Disney did this > because there was a travel agent that was paying disabled people to > accompany rich moms at Disney so they wouldn't have to stand in line. > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 4:23 PM > Subject: [tabi] Re: loss of privilege for the disabled at Disney > > >> I'm surprised two of you agree with me that the removing of privileges is >> a bad thing at Disney. I say we as blind people boycott Disney, and >> Children's Miracle Network do the same. Encourage children who are >> terminally ill not to go to disney and instead go to Universal Studios >> Florida. Blake my bf from Arizona and I will do that. >> Beth >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Easy Talk" <Easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Date sent: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:13:26 -0400 >> Subject: [tabi] Re: loss of privilege for the disabled at Disney >> >> It's ashamed that the disabled have to have there privileges removed >> because business exploits them , kind of like the disabled parking >> plackert. >> >> >> Robert >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Beth >> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:08 PM >> Subject: [tabi] Re: loss of privilege for the disabled at Disney >> >> >> On 9/23/2013 9:47 AM, Erica wrote: >> >> In case any of you missed the back story on this, earlier this year >> there was a case/cases uncovered of people "hiring" disabled people to >> visit Disney with them so their whole party could get the >> front-of-the-line privilege. >> Disney's new policy will be something like/identical to-- I'm not > sure, >> as I only heard about the article-- their "fast pass" system, which is >> where you "pre-check-in" to an attraction and get an appointment window; >> when you return during that window, you go through a special line, which >> is much, MUCH shorter than the normal line. When we went last summer, we >> are convinced that this system alone allowed us to do in 2 days what it >> would have taken 3 to do... so it is a very good set-up in my opinion. >> Erica >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chip Orange <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To: tabi <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:32 am >> Subject: [tabi] loss of privilege for the disabled at Disney >> >> >> There is an article in today?ㅤㅅㅖㄲ Democrat where Disney announces that >> due to the amount of abuse, disabled visitors to the park will no longer >> be allowed to bypass standing in long lines (and go immediately to the >> front of the line) as they had previously been allowed. >> >> That makes sense. I was a Florida resident, and I visited Disney. But >> I'm not so sure. How much does it cost to do fast passes? >> Beth >> >> >> -- >> Beth Taurasi >> 720-435-7407 >> Skype: denverqueen0920 >> Twitter ms_denverqueen >> >> Check out the TABI resource web page at >> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI >> and please make suggestions for new material. >> >> >> >> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web >> interface, or by sending an email to the address >> tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject. > Check out the TABI resource web page at > http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI > and please make suggestions for new material. > > > > if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web > interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject. > > Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI > and please make suggestions for new material. > > > > if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web > interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject. That's true, but theme parks aren't movies. They are huge, crowded, and sometimes only the rich can play there. Disney is a rich person's playground. Beth -- Beth Taurasi 720-435-7407 Skype: denverqueen0920 Twitter ms_denverqueen Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI and please make suggestions for new material. if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.