Hi, they use to just lay on the top of the sheet but I am sure they have changed since I used one 20 years or so ago. They use to have very uncomfortable wires that made them uncomfortable to lay on. Now I don't know if they have changed or not. Like I say this was 20 years or maybe 30 years ago. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplummer@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn Evans Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:47 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Ways to lower your energy bill - Sunday, Do the pads fit like a fitted sheet? Does it stay next to the matteis and the sheet on top? I had no idea these things were around untill now. Please excuse me for living under a rock. ----- Original Message ----- From: Easy Talk <mailto:easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 6:22 AM Subject: [tabi] Re: Ways to lower your energy bill - Sunday, yes we have the mattress pad and they are nice. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:17 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: Ways to lower your energy bill - Sunday, That's great Robert! one other thing I can recommend highly for the winter,is an electric mattress pad instead of an electric blanket. It works just like an electric blanket, except your laying on the warmth, instead of it being over you. your much warmer because of this, and it's very soothing to lay on something that warm all night (and you turn down your heating of course). they all now come with automatic shutoff controls after ten hours, so you never have to worry about leaving them on by accident. they also come with extra deep pockets so they'll fit any mattress, and can be ordered from any retailer like amazon or walmart; the standard ones run around $75 for a queen with dual controls I think. of course there are fancy ones, with separate temp zones for the feet, middle, and head, and wireless remote controls. One thing to mention about turning down your heat at night (pardon me if I've said this before): if you have an older thermostat which is not electronic, hooked up to a heat pump, if you turn up the heat in the morning more than 2 degrees, it will automatically use the expensive heat strips instead of the heat pump to bring you up to within 2 degrees of the set temperature. This costs a lot, and you'll benefit from buying an electronic thermostat, which looks first to see if your heat pump is warming the house adequately, before it engages the electric heat strips. This is known as a "rate of rise" heat pump thermostat. Chip ________________________________ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Easy Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:40 AM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Ways to lower your energy bill - Sunday, Here is a update on my efforts to cut down on my electric bill. Remember I posted about purchasing two oil filled radiators and using one in the kitchen and the other in our bed room up stairs which is near the thermostat. This month our electric cost dropped $117.00 about 38 percent less than last month. October was $308 and this month was $191.00. Our entire bill last month was around $420 and this month it was $306. I think this is the lowest bill we have ever had. I am sure it won't be as good during colder months but hay I'll take what I can. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Allison and Chip Orange <mailto:acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: Ways to lower your energy bill - Sunday, it's pretty tough on renters, because almost everything you can do, other than changing your thermostat (other than Robert that is), involves spending money on appliances and the house, which you can't really do, and can very seldom get the owner to do. There is a program called LIHEAP which does help those near the poverty line with their energy bills, regardless of whether your a renter or an owner, and I think receiving SSDI or SSI may automatically qualify you for it. call the city and ask about LIHEAP (low income home energy assistance program). I will try and find info on this, but I recall some business advertising that they could do something to your windows (sealing them, or putting a film on them), to make them more energy efficient, without you having to spend too much money. There was an article recently pointing out the rising per centage of your electricity which is used by TVs stereos computers, and other home electronics; especially when they're in a stand by mode, waiting to be activated. so, if you have something like a large screen tv, which is very warm even when you're not watching it, then maybe consider unplugging it. Also, ask the city if an energy audit is offered to renters; maybe they can find places to add weather stripping say, and other changes, which aren't expensive, but which make a big difference. hth, Chip hth, Chip ________________________________ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darla J. Rogers Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 8:35 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Ways to lower your energy bill - Sunday, Hi Lynn, Hmm; sounds good. Maybe we renters can find some tips that we can use, too. Darla ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn Evans <mailto:evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:25 PM Subject: [tabi] Ways to lower your energy bill - Sunday, Hello gang: Just in time for the energy debate. It's Kim Komando's cool site of the day! /14/2010 Winter is on the way. 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