Thanks. I do not know that this idea rose in my mind, like any potential phoenix. I just assumed that I am still new in this highly contagious arena of transportatio and over the years audible signals alternatives had been sliced and diced and trashed. Many times. Just testing the water. Is there no equivalent to habitat for the living, yes habitat for the blind. What a concept, If the volunteer resources are available \feel free to point me to another direction. _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darla J. Rogers Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 2:17 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Thomasville and Kerry Forest Parkway intersection Dear Mimi, I don't know why more of those pedestrian overpasses aren't used either; cost is probably a large part of it. How do you know this has all been through channels? Not being a smart aleck here; I really want to know. <smile> Darla & Precious roxy ----- Original Message ----- From: Mimi Robinson <mailto:mimir@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: [tabi] Re: Thomasville and Kerry Forest Parkway intersection If you extend the benefit of having access to the" gates of Thomasville and kerry forest par via an overhead passage would increase productivity for all concerned. At the VA blind rehab in Birmingham, that was a big part of mobility safety, Maybe the army corps of engineers could do it, brought up to the right channels. I know that the former mayor of Salinas, CA had huge successes for his community with these type of army supported effort. Thus just a suggestion which has already wormed its way throu the mill and been crushed. but it goes against all sensibilities and logic to cross those passages unassisted by dog, cane and sighted guide. I TAKES TIME TO BUILD A VILLAGE, one child at a time. Oh well.. _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darla J. Rogers Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:55 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Thomasville and Kerry Forest Parkway intersection Dear Charles, I have, on occasion, held out my cane even while traveling with my dog at nasty intersections, and I do wish, sometimes, the speeds on some roadways would be decreased. I believe the speed limit on Meridian Road is 40 mph; many are going, at least ten miles, above the speed limit, so I don't usually feel comfortable crossing in the middle of the block to the other side which has dome sidewalks, but they aren't all that great either. Darla & Precious Roxy ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Atkins <mailto:catkins@xxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: Thomasville and Kerry Forest Parkway intersection So right Darla! It would be better than waiting all day for some one to help one to cross! Make that stick just a little bit more obvious when crossing! ----- Original Message ----- From: Darla <mailto:djrogers0628@xxxxxxxxxxx> J. Rogers To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:11 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: Thomasville and Kerry Forest Parkway intersection Thanks, Sila; the worst intersection I have encountered is the one we used to cross walking from where we lived to outback. I could never get a good read on that traffic there. I wouldn't cross that intersection at Kerry Forest and Thomasville without some training, and I fervently hope an audible pedestrian signal will be in place there soon. As Sila points out, it isn't only the construction of an intersection but how much traffic there is (making a lot of noise) and the fact that some of these streets are very fast, so if one does make a mistake, and the motorist is inattentive, the chances of being struck are amplified. Darla z ----- Original Message ----- From: Sila Miller <mailto:silam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:00 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: Thomasville and Kerry Forest Parkway intersection Hi Darla and All, Basically, this is a huge, 4-way intersection with quite fast moving traffic. It does have some egress lanes and luckily, sidewalks along both sides of thomasville at least (not sure about Kerry Forest). It has a minimum of 4 lanes for the Kerry Forest portion and I'd guess probably 6 or so for Thomasville Road. The real need for audible ped signals at intersections such as this, as I see it is that it is so large and noisy that one can't accurately read the traffic to make a good safe judgment about when it is time to cross without a little help. Not sure that you'd want to cross it without some assistance or prior training. Hope this helps. Take care, Sila ----- Original Message ----- From: Allison and <mailto:acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx> Chip Orange To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:07 AM Subject: [tabi] Re: William Calling sorry Darla, but not me; maybe Mimi or Sila/Robert. Chip _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darla J. Rogers Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:02 AM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: William Calling Wow, Chip I haven't attempted to cross there; might try it if we're out that way this weekend. Can you give me a verbal description of its shape and number of lanes, etc.? Darla ----- Original Message ----- From: Allison and <mailto:acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx> Chip Orange To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:07 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: William Calling I don't know Darla if others will be happy or not for the audible signal at this intersection; Allison can't believe Mimi or anyone else is willing to try it! Chip _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darla J. Rogers Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:04 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: William Calling Dear Mimi and William, I am so proud TCB is listed in the Nova 2010 plan as serious contributors to make the routes and stops accessible. Good going to William, Sally and others who have been so thorough in putting forth our suggestions and ideas; thanks to the Lighthouse as well. I am sure others in your area, Mimi, will be happy for that audible signal, too. Darla ----- Original Message ----- From: Mimi Robinson <mailto:mimir@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:50 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: William Calling You are so kind, caring, serious, overworked and unassuming. Not to mention.. I am taking guitat lesslns..i am sure you are a CINC(commander in chief, guru, omniscient et) If I don't see you in the week, I will see you in the wibdow(???) Luv to sal _ ~MIMI _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of blindwilly Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:06 AM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: William Calling Mimi, I will see what I can do about an audible signal by your wall-Mart. William ----- Original Message ----- From: Mimi Robinson <mailto:mimir@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:28 AM Subject: [tabi] Re: William Calling Hi there atlas, it would improve living conditions to have a audible signal to go across Thomasville rd at Kerry forest parkway to go into Walmart and then make the return trip with audible signal to cross back over thonmasville going east over to kerryforest /It would require 4 audible signals. Also a bus stop needs to be located at each roundabouts in kill earn estates. Currently I walk two and a half miles to kerry park and Thomasville to take the bus to target. The return bus could stop on Thomasville at kerry forest to discharge passengers to an audible signal to cross over, Need to make some type of transportation on an as-needed basis. Oh well. _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Easy Talk Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:36 AM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: William Calling HI William. Does this group deal with all transportation in Leon county or just the fixed route system? In either case first of all we need night service which we haven't had for about 2 and a half years and there is no transportation to the airport on weekends. If your inquiry deals with the non sponsored service then I have a lot to say and recommendations for fixing the problems. At worse we should be able to have what we had prior to prioritization of non sponsored trips by the TD board. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: blindwilly <mailto:blindwilly@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:58 AM Subject: [tabi] William Calling Greetings list, As you all know I am very committed to having as good a transportation system in Tallahassee as possible. At a recent meeting I was asked to get input from my fellow disable listers: what would be the suggestions you might have for an effective transportation system? This is just one more opportunity to make your voice heard. What is the Accessible Transportation Coalitions Initiative (ATCI)? ATCI is a one-year process designed to support systems change activities to improve accessible transportation options for people with disabilities We can have a voice and it has been proven in the past that they do listen to us. I invite you to offer your suggestions and I will carry them to the table. William Benjamin, Piano Tuner Extraordinaire. The tuner alone preserves the tone.