[tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea

  • From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:09:41 -0500

I agree and like I say if you don't like the way it is currently going to
be, then you don't like the plan! What you like is amended plan. Which is in
this case a better plan. More of my thoughts.



Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Lynn Evans
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:37 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea

What makes me a little nervous is the city saying they will make the changes
to the 39 transfer points then to be able to come through for whatever
reason. The city is not ready for a grid route system that is unsafe. First
make it safe then implement the plan.

I still don't like the idea of walking through the parking lot to get to the
mall. I do it on the Monroe street side  of Tallahassee Mall. I still want
to see some, time schedules to see if it is really any quicker to get from
one place to the other.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea


> Ok, you are either happy with the way it is going to be or your not? When
> you are talking about altering the way it is going to be then this is not 
> in
> favor of the change. What you are saying you are in favor of change with
> amendments to the change there forth changing the system the way it is
> implement to be.
>
>
> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Allison and Chip Orange
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:06 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea
>
> Just so I'm clear: I'm in favor of the change, I just want them to make 
> the
> transfer points safer (chirpers don't do it), and go into the malls or 
> other
> complexes where folks would otherwise have to walk unsafely to the stop.
>
> Chip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Lynn Evans
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:02 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea
>
> The bus system is ok with me also. I am not saying it can't be improved. 
> In
> order to make things better there must be change. It would seem to me 
> people
> do not like change.
>
> It takes me about an hour to get from my apartment to the Lighthouse on
> Cedar Center cort. I have not yet seen any time table for the NOVA 2010 
> plan
> so I would have a compairson..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:04 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea
>
>
>> Hmm, this is the first I have heard anyone on this list say they were
>> happy with the bus program. Sounds like you are the minority of the
>> minority.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of blindwilly
>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:14 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> I am very happy with the boards decision.   Although I was not at the
>> meeting last night, I have been working hard on getting this change to
>> happen.  Sally and myself too have had a difference of opinion of some
>> of our friends, but all and all I think it is a good thing and will
>> make getting across town so much easier.
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:12 AM
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea
>>
>>
>>> No, don't hate you but disappointed yes. You knew the concerns of the
>>> minority which is in this case is the (Blind community) and you did
>>> not stand up and represent us by voting NO! You know there is a
>>> saying, Don't forget the little man! We don't ask for much just a
>>> bone with some meat left on it every once in awhile! Some times you
>>> do what is right not what every one else wants you to do. The Right
>>> thing to do this case was to vote NO!
>>> Again don't hate you but very disappointed in you. Yes by the way I
>>> say if we can get just Saturday this is a start. But by know means
>>> the end. Just more of my thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sign,
>>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of daviska9
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:18 PM
>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea
>>>
>>> I'm sorry for being so touchy.  Too many things in my life have made
>>> me a bit too sensitive.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Look, you all should know that the measure passed the TAC
>>> unanimously.  I know that some of you were hoping I would vote no,
>>> and those people probably hate me and will never talk to me again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As those present at the meeting can tell you, I have been asking
>>> tough questions.  Well, believe it or not, I got some good responses.
>>> StarMetro
>>> went out and got the city engineers involved, and tonight we, the
>>> TAC, were told that the majority of the safety features would be
>>> brought on line before the NOVA 2010 plan comes on line.  Even to the
>>> extent that 15 to
>>> 18
>>> of the audible signals will be set up.  Also, I brought up putting
>>> "NO RIGHT ON RED" designations at all of the transfer points.  No
>>> solid answer there, but they did say they would look into what they
>>> could do.  I can say this much for the NOVA 2010 process, that a year
>>> ago I don't think the city engineers would have been as open to
>>> working with mass transit as they are today.  This process has got
>>> more people working together than ever before.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally, I am very concerned that if we do not start making some
>>> changes, even the unpopular ones, towards decentralizing the bus
>>> system, that we will be left with a bus system in a few years that
>>> serves the students and not much else.  What I don't want to do, is
>>> stop here.  Mr. Garrison said to me, after being asked, that this is
>>> not an end to the changes, but a beginning.
>>> Your comments that Bruce Weaver and I took to the TAC and StarMetro,
>>> fueled the process of getting the city engineers involved.  Now, keep
>>> the pressure on to continue to improve safety at all intersections.
>>> Maybe we can beat the Dangerous by design label Tallahassee has been
>>> stamped with, but we have a long way to go.  Do not give up on me, I
>>> am trying the best I know, to not give up on you.
>>>
>>> Kevin Davis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> By the way, I found out that the implementation may be delayed yet
>>> even longer than December of this year by as much as three to eight
> months.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Sila Miller
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:13 PM
>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry if we were vicious, Kevin. Lets not stop thinking outside the box.
>>> I
>>> just don't want us to be limited.
>>>
>>> Say hello to Laurie and the kids.
>>>
>>> Sila
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: daviska9 <mailto:daviska9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:44 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [tabi] Saturday Mall idea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So much for me trying to think out of the box.  Sorry to have
>>> troubled you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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