[tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs

  • From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 20:59:18 -0400

If talking about me then no I not a marsh mellows ! I do stand up for my
right when I know I am right. But I am not anti business person. There is
the thing of standing up for rights and respecting your fellow man, woman or
what ever. Also not to be anti business because this gets you know where and
just makes software developers and other mfg anti against people with
handicaps or disabilities. This is why a deaf person can tell what the TV
says and a blind person still don't really know what going on. Just like we
still can't read the menus on your TV or cable box or use most of the ATM
machines and the list goes on and on. The old saying is you can catch more
flies with honey than vinegar . So spread a little honey around and you will
be surprise what you will get. But everything you come across spray vinegar
on it and you will more than likely repel most things. Yes stand up for your
self but use common since . Also two wrongs don't make a right. More
thoughts
.
 


Sign,
Joe Plummer ( JP )
joeplummer@xxxxxxx
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Easy Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:07 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs

so you haven't said anything that wasn't already said.  Some people are
marsh mellows and some stand up for there rights.  I use to be the marsh
mellow but no more.  If an establishment refuses me entrence or causes a
problem about the dog I usually try to go ahead and enter the establishment
and tell them to call the law to learn the law.

Once I stopped at a little hotel in Kissimmee and the clerk didn't want to
rent me a room because I had a service animal.  I called the sheriff's
department and let them explain what could happen if they denied me service.

The hotel was a crack hotel but I was sleepy and had been riding all day

I even got kicked out of the George Jones gift shop in Nashville after
shopping in side for 30 minutes.  The cashier didn't even notice the dog
until I got to the counter to pay for my things.  Guess where I left my
purchases.!!!smile .
Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs


> Ok, it does say they can not charge a deposit but can charge for damage 
> the
> service animal does. So I would think they would have to have you come by
> the office so they could inspect the room with making a departure leaving
> the place of establishment. Now since they have your credit card I would
> assume it would be like a rental car place the card is left open to make
> other charges to it. Now this being said and they should not charge a
> deposit don't mean they want and it would be left up to you to press
> charges. But this would not get you a room at the time. I would be willing
> to bet most of the ones that was wanting to charge a deposit and then
> couldn't they would charge for damage if you did not have a crate to put
> your dog in. They would say the dog smell and hair and so forth cause 
> damage
> to the room that caused them to have to do extra cleaning. I don't think 
> any
> court would deny them. What they have done was left a big loop hole. I my
> self think I would rather put the deposit up and then get it back if
> possible if there was no damage. Either way you would have to pay. I also,
> think a place of business should be able to require a deposit. This still 
> is
> my thoughts. But will agree now that it is saying a deposit can't be
> applied. But may charge for damage. So in Essen they are doing or allowed 
> to
> do the same thing.
>
>
>
> Sign,
> Joe Plummer ( JP )
> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Easy Talk
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:11 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>
> happy reading.
>
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> Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), a qualified individual 
> with
> a disability who uses a service animal must be allowed to bring the 
> service
> animal to any place of employment, business, and state or local government
> facility or program.
> What is a Service Animal?
> According to Department of Justice (DOJ) regulations, a service animal is
> any guide dog, signal dog, or other animal individually trained to do work
> or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability.
> Besides dogs, many kinds of animals can be service animals if they meet 
> this
> definition.
> Such animals are considered service animals under the ADA regardless of
> whether they have been licensed or certified by a state or local 
> government.
> Service animals are not considered pets.
> What about Therapy Animals?
> Therapy animals provide people with contact to animals, but are not 
> limited
> to working with people who have disabilities, and usually are not 
> considered
> service animals.
> They ordinarily are the personal pets of their handlers, and work with 
> their
> handlers to provide services to others. Federal law does not require 
> places
> of public accommodation to modify "no pets" policies for therapy animals.
> Is Documentation Required?
> An individual does not need to provide documentation regarding his/her 
> need
> for a service animal. The ADA generally prohibits covered entities from
> directly asking a person if s/he has a disability. If, however, the need 
> for
> the service animal is not apparent, the entity may ask what tasks the 
> animal
> performs and whether the animal is required because of a disability.
> Can fees be charged for service animals?
> Covered entities may not charge deposits or surcharges for allowing a
> service animal to accompany an individual with a disability, even if
> deposits are normally required for pets.  However, individuals with
> disabilities may be charged for damage caused by their service animal, so
> long as the entity regularly charges individuals without disabilities for
> the same damages.
> Are there Circumstances When a Service Animal Can Be Excluded?
> A service animal may be excluded when the animal's behavior poses a direct
> threat to the health or safety of others. For example, a service animal 
> that
> displays vicious behavior towards other guests or customers may be 
> excluded.
> However, assumptions may not be made about how a particular animal is 
> likely
> to behave based on past experience with other animals. Each situation must
> be considered individually.
> In some instances, the presence of a service animal may conflict with 
> other
> interests.
> A California plaintiff sued a ferry company who refused to allow her 
> service
> animal into a specific area of the ferry.  The ferry company based its
> one-time refusal on the requests of a frequent customer with dander
> allergies for an animal-free area.
> The court found that the ferry did not violate the ADA because it based 
> its
> decision on consideration for the health and safety of others.  See 
> Lockett
> v.
> Catalina Channel
> Exp., Inc., 496 F.3d 1061 (9th Cir. 2007).
> When the accommodation of a service animal would result in a fundamental
> alteration to the nature of the business, service or activity it may be
> excluded. For example, a dog barking during a theatrical performance may 
> be
> excluded.  However, the individual with the disability must be allowed to
> return without the animal.
> What About Service Animals in Housing?
> The Fair Housing Act Amendments prohibits discrimination because of
> disability in the sale, rental or advertising of dwellings. The law 
> requires
> public and private housing providers to modify policies and practices that
> deprive individuals with disabilities of their rights to enjoy and use 
> their
> dwellings. The Act requires covered housing providers to make reasonable
> accommodations to policies that prohibit pets or require deposits for
> animals.  Exemptions include buildings with four or fewer units where the
> landlord lives in one of the units, and private owners who do not own more
> than three single family houses.
> What About Service Animals in Air Travel?
> According to the Air Carrier Access Act Part 382 regulations, airlines 
> must
> permit service animals to accompany a qualified person with disabilities 
> on
> a flight.  The service animal may accompany the individual in any seat in
> which the person sits, unless the animal obstructs an aisle or other area
> that must remain clear in order to facilitate an emergency evacuation or 
> to
> comply with Federal Aviation Administration regulations. Airline personnel
> may ask whether an animal is a service animal, but may not require
> documentation as a prerequisite to boarding.  Airlines may rely on 
> credible
> verbal assurances of the individual using the animal.
> Identification may
> include cards or other documentation, presence of a harness or markings on

> a
> harness, tags, or the credible verbal assurance of the passenger using the
> animal.
> The U.S. Department of Transportation Guidance Concerning Service Animals 
> in
> Air Transportation also recognizes emotional support animals as service
> animals.
> More
> information may be obtained at
> http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/rules/20030509.doc
> (Word version) or http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/rules/20030509.pdf (PDF
> version).
> Enforcement
> * Title I of the ADA-File a complaint with the Equal Employment 
> Opportunity
> Commission
> (EEOC) within 180 days of the alleged discrimination.
> (www.eeoc.gov/charge/overview_charge_filing.html)
> * Title II of the ADA-File a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice
> (DOJ)
> by calling 1-800-896-7743 or file a complaint with the Office of Civil
> Rights at the Department of Health and Human Services at 1-800-368-1019.
> (www.ada.gov/t2cmpfrm.htm)
> * Title III of the ADA-File a complaint with U. S. Department of Justice,
> Civil Rights Division (www.ada.gov/t3compfm.htm)
> * Housing-File a complaint with Housing and Urban Development (HUD) within
> one year after the alleged discrimination or file a lawsuit in federal
> district court within two years of the alleged incident.
> (www.hud.gov/complaints/housediscrim.cfm)
> * Air Travel-File a compliant with the U.S. Department of Transportation
> Aviation Consumer Protection Division.
> (http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/problems.htm)
> Resources
> The following links provide additional information about Service Animals.
> U.S. Department of Justice
> * Technical Assistance Letters
> o www.usdoj.gov/crt/foia/tal482.txt
> o www.usdoj.gov/crt/foia/tal151.txt
> o www.usdoj.gov/crt/foia/tal302.txt
> * ADA Business Brief: Service Animals
> www.ada.gov/svcanimb.htm
> * Commonly Asked Questions About Service Animals in Places of Business
> www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/qasrvc.htm U.S. Department of Transportation
> * U.S. Department of Transportation Aviation Consumer Protection Division
> http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/index.htm
> * U.S. Department of Transportation Guidance Concerning Service Animals in
> Air Transportation http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/rules/20030509.doc (Word
> file) http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/rules/20030509.pdf (PDF file) Other
> Organizations:
> * Delta Society
> www.deltasociety.org
> * Southeastern Guide Dogs, Inc.
> www.guidedogs.org
> ILRU Webcasts
> * Part I: Service Animals and the Law: Which Animals do the ADA & State 
> Law
> Recognize?
> - Sally Conway, U.S. Dept. of Justice; Ed Eames, PhD, Toni Eames, MS and
> Aaron McCullough on April 14, 2004.
> www.ilru.org/html/training/webcasts/archive/2004/04-14-SC.html
> * Part II: Questions & Answers about Service Animals and the Law: Which
> Animals do the ADA & State Law Recognize - Sally Conway, U.S. Department 
> of
> Justice and J. Aaron McCullough, DLRP on April 29, 2004.
> www.ilru.org/html/training/webcasts/archive/2004/04-29-SC.html
> * Part III: Service Animals in Housing and Air Travel - Betsy Darling, 
> HUD;
> Allyssa D. Wheaton-Rodriguez, HUD; Ed Eames, PhD and Toni Eames, MS; Stacy
> Toomey, Continental Airlines on May 12, 2004.
> http://www.ilru.org/html/training/webcasts/archive/2004/05-12-BD.html
> * Part IV: Transportation and the ADA: Latest Updates, Service Animals, 
> Q&A
> - Marilyn Golden, DREDF on June 16, 2004.
> www.ilru.org/html/training/webcasts/archive/2004/06-16-MG.html
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:41 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>
>
>> Show me the law. I have not seen it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> Joe Plummer ( JP )
>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Easy Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:18 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>>
>> How many times do you people have to be told it is underline bold against
>> the law to charge deposits for service animals.  case closed.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Daniel Ben Moshe" <danielbenmoshe1@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:02 PM
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>>
>>
>>> That is true, but they are not saying that, they are just taking it and
>>> not
>>> giving an account as to what they are doing. A sighted person they give
>>> an
>>> accounting to every time for charges.  However they feel that they don't
>>> oah
>>> us any explanation what so ever. If they are taking an deposit then they
>>> need to say so, and return it if there is no problem. The thing is that
>>> they
>>> will find something to justify them keeping all, or most of the money.
>>> Remember this society is sick, and how ever, and by who ever.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,
>>>
>>> Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
>>> Benai Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County,
>>> www.theblindcansee.org
>>> Choose ye this day whom you will serve.  If Yahweh be Elohim, then serve
>>> him, with all of your hart.  However, if bail be your master.  Then 
>>> serve
>>> him.  As for me, and my house.  We choose, to serve Yahweh!
>>>
>>> The late Bishop Joe Patterson told a story long ago, when I was a small
>>> child.  About Elijah, and the 450 false prophets of bail.  He said that
>>> Elijah, stood, and told the false prophets to go on ahead, because they
>>> had
>>> a much larger program.  He said that they had 450 participants, and he
>>> only
>>> had one.  Elijah, also reminded them, that they had to drag their god up
>>> the
>>> mountain side on an ox cart.  the man of Yahweh, also said, that his
>>> Elohim
>>> would be there when he arrived.  He said mockingly, you go on ahead.
>>> Heck,
>>> I will even let you call your god first.  I'M going to take a nap, and
>>> when
>>> you guys finish your foolishness, wake me up. Go ahead now, take your
>>> best
>>> shot.
>>> Bishop Joe O Patterson
>>> A blessed memory
>>> 1963-1989
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Joe Plummer
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 11:57 PM
>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>>>
>>> Yes, it is good business practice. They're not charging for damages
>>> before
>>> it happens they are getting a deposit. I my self do not think they are
>>> out
>>> side the law. Anyone else would have to put up a deposit even if they
>>> were
>>> aloud to have the animal inside the room at all. Just because we are
>>> blind
>>> don't make us special. Now I do think we have certain rights as a handy
>>> cap
>>> or disable person. But not paying a deposit for your dog or what ever
>>> animal
>>> that could or could not cause damage is not one of them. If no damage is
>>> done then you should get your money reimburse . If not this is what the
>>> court of law is for. Just my thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sign,
>>> Joe Plummer ( JP )
>>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Darla J. Rogers
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 4:21 PM
>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>>>
>>> Um, Joe; my dogs have **never** CREATED A PROBLEM OF ANY KIND **INSIDE**
>>> A
>>> HOTEL.  My current dog did have diarrhea in the parking lot which I 
>>> would
>>> have been happy to reimburse, as I told them about it, and guess what?
>>> The
>>> next day, it was still there.
>>>
>>> If a public establishment tries to charge for damages, in advance, they
>>> are
>>> breaking the law, and I, for one, will sue, if I must to recoup my
>>> losses.
>>>
>>> Good business practices?  I don't think so, as it is breaking the laws,
>>> both
>>> Federal and state.
>>>
>>> Darla
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Darla J. Rogers, B.A. Social Science; M.S. Rehabilitation Counselor
>>> Education
>>>
>>> djrogers0628@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Home phone #:  850-329-7437
>>> Cell #:  850-443-3571
>>>
>>> Skype ID: wildflower0628
>>> I suited up for the long walk back to myself...
>>> ....Ani DiFranco
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:16 PM
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't think they are trying to get away with anything. This is just
>>>>good  business practice to me. It cost to clean up after a dog or
>>>>anything. What  is this we are blind and should get special things done
>>>>for us. That is  not  right. Yes, I believe that you need some help and
>>>>we do get it. But come  on  people we are not privilege. This coming
>>>>from a service dog owner. Use  common since. More of my thoughts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sign,
>>>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>>>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Daniel Ben Moshe
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 2:56 PM
>>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>>>>
>>>> I have never had a problem in hotell stays, things are changing, and
>>>> where ever you are can determen how much they try to get away with. As
>>>> you said if they are taking a depossit, then they should return it,
>>>> but I have never had them ask for a depossit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,
>>>>
>>>> Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
>>>> Benai Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County, www.theblindcansee.org
>>>> Choose ye this day whom you will serve.  If Yahweh be Elohim, then
>>>> serve him, with all of your hart.  However, if bail be your master.
>>>> Then serve him.  As for me, and my house.  We choose, to serve Yahweh!
>>>>
>>>> The late Bishop Joe Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a
>>>> small child.  About Elijah, and the 450 false prophets of bail.  He
>>>> said that Elijah, stood, and told the false prophets to go on ahead,
>>>> because they had a much larger program.  He said that they had 450
>>>> participants, and he only had one.  Elijah, also reminded them, that
>>>> they had to drag their god up the mountain side on an ox cart.  the
>>>> man of yahweh, also said, that his Elohim would be there when he
>>>> arrived.  He said mockingly,you go on ahead.  Heck,
>>>
>>>> I
>>>> will even let you call your god first.  I'M going to take a nap, and
>>>> when you guys finish your foolishness, wake me up. Go ahead now, take
>>>> your best shot.
>>>> Bishop Joe O Patterson
>>>> A blessed memory
>>>> 1963-1989
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Joe Plummer
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 2:02 PM
>>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>>>>
>>>> Well, there is nothing in the ADA or the law saying you can or cannot.
>>>> Now most places has their own policeys weather in writing or just
>>>> verbal. They can say extra for the dog not as like a extra person. But
>>>> maybe as extra cleaning, or even a damage deposit. Now as a deposit
>>>> you should get your money back if the dog has not done any damage. Now
>>>> I have not ran in to this but do not do a lot of staying in rooms. But
>>>> if I had this kind of business I would more than likely consider Extra
>>>> for the dog for the extra cleaning and more than likely a deposit on
>>>> top for damage if any happen to happen .
>>>> But this my thoughts. Not everyone takes care of their service dog
>>>> like they should and all are not the best mannered.
>>>>
>>>> Sign,
>>>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>>>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Lighthouse of the Big Bend
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:35 PM
>>>> To: tabi
>>>> Cc: fcb-l
>>>> Subject: [tabi] Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>>>>
>>>> Thought some folks might find this interesting... although many may
>>>> already know it : )
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Subject: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>>>>
>>>> A friend of mine who does training at Hilton Hotels tells me that it
>>>> is illegal to charge extra for a service dog staying in a hotel?  I
>>>> have been charged extra for my dog as we travel at motels by about 15
>>>> dollars a room for the dog.  There is no problem with getting her in
>>>> the room - but my friend said that they can only charge if the dog
>>>> does something in the room then that is fine.  Their policy for pets
>>>> staying in the room is $15 a night extra.  This was new to me and I
>>>> told her I could not recall reading anything about this under title
>>>> II.
>>>>
>>>> Could you clarify this for me?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> .....
>>>>
>>>> Answer:
>>>> Hotels are covered by title III, not title II. (Places of public
>>>> accommodation - title III vs. programs and services of state or local
>>>> governments (title II).
>>>>
>>>> The issue you raise concerns an unlawful surcharge.
>>>>
>>>> See http://www.ada.gov/qasrvc.htm , question 7:
>>>>
>>>> 7. Q: Can I charge a maintenance or cleaning fee for customers who
>>>> bring service animals into my business?
>>>>
>>>> A: No. Neither a deposit nor a surcharge may be imposed on an
>>>> individual with a disability as a condition to allowing a service
>>>> animal to accompany the individual with a disability, even if deposits
>>>> are routinely required for pets. However, a public accommodation may
>>>> charge its customers with disabilities if a service animal causes
>>>> damage so long as it is the regular practice of the entity to charge
>>>> non-disabled customers for the same types of damages. For example, a
>>>> hotel can charge a guest with a disability for the cost of repairing
>>>> or cleaning furniture damaged by a service animal if it is the hotel's
>>>> policy to charge when non-disabled guests cause such damage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marc Dubin, Esq.
>>>> Director of Advocacy
>>>> Center for Independent Living of South Florida www.ADAadvocacyBlog.org
>>>> mdubin@xxxxxxxxx 305-896-3000 mobile
>>>> fax: 877-731-3030
>>>> www.cavnet.org
>>>> EIN: 52-2117529
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>>>> web interface, or by sending an email to the address
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>>>
>>> Check out the TABI resource web page at
>>> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
>>> and please make suggestions for new material.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
>>> interface, or by sending an email to the address
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>>> with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
>>>
>>> Check out the TABI resource web page at
>>> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
>>> and please make suggestions for new material.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
>>> interface, or by sending an email to the address
>>> tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
>>>
>>> Check out the TABI resource web page at
>>> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
>>> and please make suggestions for new material.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
>>> interface, or by sending an email to the address
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>>
>> Check out the TABI resource web page at
>> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
>> and please make suggestions for new material.
>>
>>
>>
>> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
>> interface, or by sending an email to the address
>> tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
>>
>> Check out the TABI resource web page at
>> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
>> and please make suggestions for new material.
>>
>>
>>
>> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
>> interface, or by sending an email to the address
>> tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
>
> Check out the TABI resource web page at
> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
> and please make suggestions for new material.
>
>
>
> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
> interface, or by sending an email to the address 
> tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
>
> Check out the TABI resource web page at 
> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
> and please make suggestions for new material.
>
>
>
> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web 
> interface, or by sending an email to the address 
> tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject. 

Check out the TABI resource web page at
http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
and please make suggestions for new material.



if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.

Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
and please make suggestions for new material.



if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web 
interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.

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