[tabi] Re: Nova Plan

  • From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:32:14 -0400

Hi all,

Indeed this is good news if the audible signals are installed correctly.  I 
will be the first to say the city has been wonderful about installing audible 
signals.  I would like to say that the city needs to make sure that what they 
install are accessible and let's say findable.  I would insist that the signal 
buttons should have locater beeps and tactile indicators so people can find 
them.  I have seen some good audible crossings and some that aren't so good.  
My main concerns would be that the city work with the Blind and wheelchair 
group to insure at least these crossings be totally accessible and as far as I 
know the Polaris system is the best and currently this is not the system the 
city uses because they cost more.

Also as far as I know there isn't a standard for audible signals by the state 
of Florida or the Federal government.  I think it is also important to work 
closely with the city to make sure if a particular intersection is chosen as a 
transfer point that it is absolutely safe and some may require a pedestrian 
cross over  .  For those people in wheelchairs, I just don't see the new system 
being feasible.

Beyond the disability issue, I still don't think the majority of people who 
work will use the bus if they have to walk a mile to and from the bus 
especially in bad weather.  I have always been in favor of a decentralized 
system but if you don't go to the places where people live, for the most part 
the buses will be empty.  As star metro states, they will not spend much more 
money to increase service but if you truly increase service you spend moor 
money.  You can't double services with out it costing money and where the 
citizens are getting short changed is on the service coverage area.


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Allison and Chip Orange 
  To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:41 PM
  Subject: [tabi] Re: Nova Plan

  Thanks William.

  Just an FYI, last week, when I posted an article from the Democrat by Tamaran 
Waters on the latest StarMetro listening session, I spoke with Ms. Waters 
regarding some of the problems and the concerns raised here on TABI.  She 
wasn't aware that transfers would be required across dangerous or difficult 
traffic intersections, along with many other aspects of how the plan would 
possibly effect the disabled.  she seemed very interested in writing a 
follow-up piece, and seemed to indicate that she would speak to StarMetro about 
issues such as the intersections being used as transfer points.

  I haven't heard any more from her, and so don't know what the status is of 
her follow-on article; however, if it's still in progress, as you say, it may 
be a good opportunity to garner consessions from StarMetro if/when it's 



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: blindwilly 
    To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:11 PM
    Subject: [tabi] Nova Plan



    In view of the entire goings on, I thought I would write a little on what 
is happening with the NOVA new bus schedule.   As many of you know, not only 
did Sam Scheib come to our TCB meeting, but he brought the entire team to put 
down rumors and take suggestions for the new plan.   What follows is what I can 
think of now, but there will be lots more to come.


    With MiccosukeeHills,, I made the suggestion that they compromise and 
instead of stopping on the road, where there is a ditch, and driving all threw 
the complex,at least pulling into the parking lot where folks could come and 
meat the bus.   He immediately thought that would be a good suggestion for a 


    I also asked about the governors Square Mall, I pointed out that just by 
virtue that there is handicapped parking up close to the building, that the 
state and federal government know the danger of walking threw un controlled 
traffic.   Again he said he would take that to heart and had his secretary 
write it down.


    After Sam left our meeting he called and told us that he had been working 
on our suggestions and had one of his own.   He is per posing putting in 
audible signals at every place where there is a transfer that requires crossing 
the street.   Folks, this amounts to sum 39 audible signals and I think it is 
something to be commended.


    You all know that White Cane Days is coming up on Thursday and Sally and my 
Tallassee chapter of Lions are going to be out in forse.   We will be carrying 
signs at Magnolia and call, as well as Capital Circle and Mahan.   We will have 
sleep shades for members and others to use to cross the street and I have 
plenty of white canes for them to experience.   Sam's public relations person 
along with our Lions president, Ray Maloy will be inviting the media.   They 
have already contacted the police department and they have shown a willingness 
to work with Star Metro on traffic issues.


    I think this new bus plan has left us with a great opportunity to get some 
concessions before we are left behind.   It has come after years of hard work 
and you our blind citizens are the ones to thank.   Please let us all know if 
you hear any new news on this subject and we will all be working together, 
rather than pulling against each other.


    PS, Sam and his team will be back to TCB after the first of the year and 
staying as partners in this.






    William Benjamin, Piano Tuner Extraordinaire.
    The tuner alone preserves the tone.

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