[tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's Electric!

  • From: "Easy Talk" <Easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:13:49 -0400

Hi Chip,

I hear you about Brian being on the list and I am certainly not among my 
remarks at him.  Just tired of government waste when more important things are 
needed.  I commend Brian for his efforts and listening to our concerns.  As far 
as the feds giving the money,  The citizens of Tallahassee would be better 
served if they and the city had some say in how to best waste our tax dollars.
My guess is if we made a list the electric buses wouldn't be anywhere near the 
top.  From what I gathered from articles in the Democrat, the buses cost about 
1 million each,  It would take a hell of a lot of gas savings to make up the 
difference between electric and conventional buses.  As far as the government 
being concerned about the environment, Don't think that had much to do with 
them spending the money for that reason.  More like a political pay back for a 
contribution to a political campaign. Kind of ironic Mr. Garrison is now 
working for the supplier, Wonder what his salary is now?


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chip and Allie Orange 
  To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:07 AM
  Subject: [tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's 

  Yep Robert; it could be they aren’t a good idea, but it’s one of those ideas 
which you don’t really know until you try it.


  The second point is that just like the “cash for clunkers” program, the feds 
were looking for ways to spend money to get the economy going again; so for 
that reason, spending it on anything at all is a good reason to spend it.


  Someone put these two thoughts together, along with concern over the planet, 
and decided a few electric buses wwere a good idea for spending money and 
trying something which might work out.


  I’m not really arguing for or against electric vehicles; I don’t have strong 
opinions there, but I can at least see why they did it.


  We’ve got Brian Waterman now participating on TABI; asking our thoughts and 
answering our questions, I also didn’t want to give him anything other than a 
friendly and appreciative welcome.  Right now, I bet I’m one of the biggest 
riders of StarMetro on this list, so I appreciate having an ear to listen to 
any thoughts or problems I have.





  From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Easy Talk
  Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:43 AM
  To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's 


  I get your point Chip but it is still a waste of federal dollars in a bad 
economy  and nothing is free.  I am sure repairs are very expensive and 
maintance staff have to be trained to work on them.  also now you have charging 
stations which will require man power also.




    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Chip and Allie Orange 

    To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:03 PM

    Subject: [tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - 
It's Electric!


    Ok; I’m sure you guys are right about what is needed, but these were a free 
gift from the feds, who want to get us to look at electric vehicles.  It’s not 
like StarMetro had any choice in how to spend the money.

    They do end up with more buses, which could mean more service in some form.


    I don’t think we should beat up on them unless there’s a choice to be made, 
and we want them to make a particular one.  If you want more night service, 
etc., go to the guys who control the money (the city commissioners), and ask 
them to do it.  It’s their job to listen to us and decide how the money is 
spent, and what to pay for.





    From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of wendy.hoss@xxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:36 AM
    To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - 
It's Electric!


    Amen Robert, we could sure use night services a lot more than electric 
buses.  I would love to be able to go places at night. 


    From: "Easy Talk" <Easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:43:50 AM
    Subject: [tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - 
It's Electric!

    All I can say is if the city can spend 5 million on buses that have to be 
charged once a hour then it is going to be pretty hard for them to denigh night 
service.  That 5 million would sure go a long way for night service.



      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Lynn Evans 

      To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:32 PM

      Subject: [tabi] Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's 


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        From: "City of Tallahassee" <City_of_Tallahassee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        Date: March 18, 2013, 1:36:03 PM EDT
        To: <austin.evans60@xxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's Electric!

              City of Tallahassee News Release
              Communications / City Hall / Tallahassee FL 32301 / 850.891.8533 
              StarMetro - It's Electric!
              Construction Begins on FastFill Charging Station for Electric 

              March 18, 2013

              StarMetro is one step closer to launching its brand new 
all-electric, zero-emission buses. This week, the transit agency will begin 
construction on a fast charge station at C.K. Steele Plaza. This FastFill 
charging station, manufactured by Proterra Inc., will charge the electric buses 
at the central transfer station in as little as ten minutes. 

              "When fully implemented, we will have five electric buses in 
operation, which will be the largest electric bus fleet in the nation," said 
City Commissioner Scott Maddox, who serves on the city's Long Range Planning 
Target Issue Committee. "This action, along with our commitment to compressed 
natural gas fueling, once again reflects Tallahassee as a leader in 
sustainability and in finding ways to efficiently help our citizens travel 
throughout the community. The fact that we have been awarded over $7 million in 
federal grants also shows that our work is being recognized on a national 

              Ivan Maldonado, interim executive director of StarMetro, said the 
decision to place the Proterra FastFill charging station at C.K. Steele Plaza 
will eliminate the need for the electric buses to go off line to receive a 
charge at StarMetro's main facility on Appleyard Drive.  "With the charging 
station at the plaza, the electric buses can rapidly recharge on-route as 
customers unload and board the bus."

              To recharge at the Proterra FastFill charging station, an 
electric bus simply pulls into the plaza and automatically connects with an 
overhead system that links to the bus' high-capacity charger. The charging 
station includes advanced wireless controls that facilitate the docking 
process. The wireless controls identify that the electric bus is present and 
then automatically guides and connects the bus with the charging station, free 
from coach operator involvement. 

              In order to keep customers away from the charging station, 
StarMetro will construct a wall surrounding the high-voltage area. This wall 
will feature individual block pieces that are cast with a design, and then 
installed along the wall. The design, created by artists, will depict the 
transition of nature and energy through the seasons. This design will be 
visible by motorists and StarMetro customers in the plaza. 

              Staff expects construction to be completed by July, weather 
permitting. After a month-long testing period, the fast charge station will be 
operational, and the electric buses can begin service. By the end of August, 
the electric buses should be fully operational.

              "Once our new electric buses are in service, we will be the first 
transit agency in the state of Florida and the first of the east coast to 
operate these revolutionary electric buses," said Maldonado. "We are proud to 
be on the cutting edge of technology, changing the transportation industry to 
better serve our loyal customers and keep our impact on the environment to a 

              In 2010, the Federal Transit Administration (FTA) awarded 
StarMetro over $5 million dollars of the Transit Investments for Green Gas and 
Energy Reduction (TIGGER) II grant in order to purchase three all-electric 
buses and construct a charging station. The following year, StarMetro signed a 
contract with Proterra for the production of these buses and charging station. 
Last year, FTA upped its award to StarMetro by $2 million dollars for the 
purchase of two additional electric buses. With the delivery of the two 
additional electric buses, which are currently under construction, StarMetro 
will have five all-electric buses in its fleet.

              For more information about StarMetro services, please call 
StarMetro's main office at 891-5200 or visit Talgov.com/starmetro. Other ways 
to view information include liking StarMetro's official Facebook page at 
Facebook.com/starmetrotransit or following the organization on Twitter at 

              CONTACT: Ivan Maldonado, StarMetro Interim Executive Director, 
891-5044; or Heather Teter, StarMetro Marketing Specialist, 891-5206


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