Yep Robert; it could be they aren’t a good idea, but it’s one of those ideas which you don’t really know until you try it. The second point is that just like the “cash for clunkers” program, the feds were looking for ways to spend money to get the economy going again; so for that reason, spending it on anything at all is a good reason to spend it. Someone put these two thoughts together, along with concern over the planet, and decided a few electric buses wwere a good idea for spending money and trying something which might work out. I’m not really arguing for or against electric vehicles; I don’t have strong opinions there, but I can at least see why they did it. We’ve got Brian Waterman now participating on TABI; asking our thoughts and answering our questions, I also didn’t want to give him anything other than a friendly and appreciative welcome. Right now, I bet I’m one of the biggest riders of StarMetro on this list, so I appreciate having an ear to listen to any thoughts or problems I have. Chip From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Easy Talk Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:43 AM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's Electric! I get your point Chip but it is still a waste of federal dollars in a bad economy and nothing is free. I am sure repairs are very expensive and maintance staff have to be trained to work on them. also now you have charging stations which will require man power also. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Chip and Allie Orange <mailto:acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's Electric! Ok; I’m sure you guys are right about what is needed, but these were a free gift from the feds, who want to get us to look at electric vehicles. It’s not like StarMetro had any choice in how to spend the money. They do end up with more buses, which could mean more service in some form. I don’t think we should beat up on them unless there’s a choice to be made, and we want them to make a particular one. If you want more night service, etc., go to the guys who control the money (the city commissioners), and ask them to do it. It’s their job to listen to us and decide how the money is spent, and what to pay for. Chip From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of wendy.hoss@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:36 AM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's Electric! Amen Robert, we could sure use night services a lot more than electric buses. I would love to be able to go places at night. _____ From: "Easy Talk" <Easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:43:50 AM Subject: [tabi] Re: Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's Electric! All I can say is if the city can spend 5 million on buses that have to be charged once a hour then it is going to be pretty hard for them to denigh night service. That 5 million would sure go a long way for night service. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn Evans <mailto:austin.evans60@xxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [tabi] Fwd: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's Electric! Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: "City of Tallahassee" <City_of_Tallahassee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: March 18, 2013, 1:36:03 PM EDT To: <austin.evans60@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: City of Tallahassee News Release - StarMetro - It's Electric! <http://www.talgov.com/communications/communicationshome.aspx> City of Tallahassee News Release <http://www.facebook.com/COTNews> Image removed by sender. COT Facebook <http://twitter.com/COTNews> Image removed by sender. COT Twitter <http://www.youtube.com/user/WCOT> Image removed by sender. WCOT YouTube Communications / City Hall / Tallahassee FL 32301 / 850.891.8533 Image removed by sender. COT StarStarMetro - It's Electric! Construction Begins on FastFill Charging Station for Electric Buses March 18, 2013 StarMetro is one step closer to launching its brand new all-electric, zero-emission buses. This week, the transit agency will begin construction on a fast charge station at C.K. Steele Plaza. This FastFill charging station, manufactured by Proterra Inc., will charge the electric buses at the central transfer station in as little as ten minutes. "When fully implemented, we will have five electric buses in operation, which will be the largest electric bus fleet in the nation," said City Commissioner Scott Maddox, who serves on the city's Long Range Planning Target Issue Committee. "This action, along with our commitment to compressed natural gas fueling, once again reflects Tallahassee as a leader in sustainability and in finding ways to efficiently help our citizens travel throughout the community. The fact that we have been awarded over $7 million in federal grants also shows that our work is being recognized on a national level." Ivan Maldonado, interim executive director of StarMetro, said the decision to place the Proterra FastFill charging station at C.K. Steele Plaza will eliminate the need for the electric buses to go off line to receive a charge at StarMetro's main facility on Appleyard Drive. "With the charging station at the plaza, the electric buses can rapidly recharge on-route as customers unload and board the bus." To recharge at the Proterra FastFill charging station, an electric bus simply pulls into the plaza and automatically connects with an overhead system that links to the bus' high-capacity charger. The charging station includes advanced wireless controls that facilitate the docking process. The wireless controls identify that the electric bus is present and then automatically guides and connects the bus with the charging station, free from coach operator involvement. In order to keep customers away from the charging station, StarMetro will construct a wall surrounding the high-voltage area. This wall will feature individual block pieces that are cast with a design, and then installed along the wall. The design, created by artists, will depict the transition of nature and energy through the seasons. This design will be visible by motorists and StarMetro customers in the plaza. Staff expects construction to be completed by July, weather permitting. After a month-long testing period, the fast charge station will be operational, and the electric buses can begin service. By the end of August, the electric buses should be fully operational. "Once our new electric buses are in service, we will be the first transit agency in the state of Florida and the first of the east coast to operate these revolutionary electric buses," said Maldonado. "We are proud to be on the cutting edge of technology, changing the transportation industry to better serve our loyal customers and keep our impact on the environment to a minimum." In 2010, the Federal Transit Administration (FTA) awarded StarMetro over $5 million dollars of the Transit Investments for Green Gas and Energy Reduction (TIGGER) II grant in order to purchase three all-electric buses and construct a charging station. The following year, StarMetro signed a contract with Proterra for the production of these buses and charging station. Last year, FTA upped its award to StarMetro by $2 million dollars for the purchase of two additional electric buses. With the delivery of the two additional electric buses, which are currently under construction, StarMetro will have five all-electric buses in its fleet. For more information about StarMetro services, please call StarMetro's main office at 891-5200 or visit Talgov.com/starmetro <http://www.talgov.com/starmetro> . 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