[tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
- From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:08:05 -0400
ok, but I don't know how many "regular riders" (sighted people) are
against the nova 2010 plan?
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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Easy Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:53 AM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
>
> Hi Chip,
>
> I agree but we also need the regular riders to come out also.
> I know if you
> get a bunch of people in city hall, they pay attention.
> Remember when we
> all went about the privation of Dial A ride. I truly believe
> if we hadn't
> gone, they would have let it go through.
>
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:38 AM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
>
>
> > Robert,
> >
> > if we really want to stop it, we will have to use
> accessibility issues
> > in my opinion. we simply aren't enough people to be able
> to stop it by
> > just saying "we really don't like it."
> >
> > Accessibility issues though, and our safety when transferring, are
> > enough reason to put a hold on things until they're worked
> out properly.
> > coming up with a vague promise that they'll put in say a couple of
> > audible signals isn't solving the issue, not with 25 (that's my
> > understanding) transfer points which are intersections.
> >
> > transfers at intersections, coupled with walking across
> large parking
> > lots put people unnecessarily at risk. I think we could
> write to our
> > city commissioners and convince them that the plan needs to
> be on hold
> > until these issues are better thought through. by all
> means send a copy
> > of such letters to Nova 2010, but I don't have any good feeling that
> > they plan to adjust the plan much for us.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
> > Florida Public Service Commission
> >
> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (850) 413-6314
> >
> > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Easy Talk
> >> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 6:12 AM
> >> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >>
> >> This is pretty shallow thinking, Yes people rent cars or use
> >> cabs, can you
> >> guess why, there is no bus. What other choice do they have.
> >>
> >> Also I guess going to the listening session didn't do any
> >> good. I ask them
> >> to make the loop on village square behind Publix to no avail.
> >> It seems like
> >> they would listen to my request since going behind Publix
> >> would be the side
> >> where cypress point apartments are located and the complex
> >> has 300 units.
> >>
> >> I say considering the facts we have so far and the
> >> unwillingness of Star
> >> Metro to listen to what the tax payers want that we stand
> against the
> >> Nova210 plan and start writing to city commissioners now to
> >> try and kill the
> >> beast.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Lynn Evans" <evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:04 PM
> >> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >>
> >>
> >> > at the first meeting I went to the airport question was
> >> brought up. It was
> >> > broken down into three groups
> >> >
> >> > students come and go at the beginning and end of school
> >> terms. It is hard
> >> > to schedule buses around this.
> >> > Business travelers use their own transportation either rent
> >> a car or cab.
> >> > The same thing for tourist.
> >> > Busses need to be on a regular schedule each hour. Plains
> >> need to match
> >> > the bus schedule or vice versa.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:12 AM
> >> > Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> They also don't go to the airport which is a city property
> >> and could have
> >> >> the potential for more riders.
> >> >>
> >> >> Robert
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Mister Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:29 AM
> >> >> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> That would be counter productive. They should go to all
> >> major places
> >> >>> like
> >> >>> the civic center Tallahassee museum , the malls and
> >> libraries and such.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> Blackjack
> >> >>> misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> >>> Behalf
> >> >>> Of Lynn Evans
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:25 PM
> >> >>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I would hope businesses world scream bloody murder also.
> >> I know the
> >> >>> Tallahassee Museum will no longer receive bus service
> >> under the new
> >> >>> plan.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:51 AM
> >> >>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> you know, receivership means only that it will continue
> >> to operate;
> >> >>>> that's not a valid reason for refusing to serve it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ------------------------------
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Chip Orange
> >> >>>> Database Administrator
> >> >>>> Florida Public Service Commission
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>> (850) 413-6314
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the
> author and do not
> >> >>>> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service
> >> Commission.)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >> >>>>> ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:39 AM
> >> >>>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Robert & others,
> >> >>>>> Erica here. I passed this info to Sila. I got if
> from Owen, who
> >> >>>>> obtained it from StarMetro directly.
> >> >>>>> And, yes, seniors, disabled, and school-age children all pay
> >> >>>>> 60 cents.
> >> >>>>> I'm pretty sure-- but not positive-- that when a
> >> discounted fare is
> >> >>>>> deposited, the driver has to push a key-- presumably
> >> one of these 3
> >> >>>>> categories-- to have the fare box accept it as a valid fare.
> >> >>>>> These figures and percentages are from 2008.
> >> >>>>> Interestingly, also from 2008, 29,979 people boarded at
> >> Governor's
> >> >>>>> Square Mall; that's over 85 people per day. There were
> >> about 25,000
> >> >>>>> people boarding at Tallahassee Mall. There still
> seems to be no
> >> >>>>> concession from StarMetro on going into the malls. The
> >> argument for
> >> >>>>> Tallahassee Mall, of course, is that since it is already in
> >> >>>>> recievership (close to being bankrupt), why bother?
> This is NOT,
> >> >>>>> however, a valid argument, of course, for Governor's Square.
> >> >>>>> Another tidbit: In 2008, the malls were the only 2 stops
> >> >>>>> among the top
> >> >>>>> 20 (most boardings) which were not campus stops (FSU,
> >> FAMU, and TCC--
> >> >>>>> don't recall the order). So, 1) this jives with the 76% of
> >> >>>>> riders being
> >> >>>>> students figure, and 2) makes it all the more ridiculous that
> >> >>>>> they are
> >> >>>>> refusing to go into the malls! The manager at Gov.
> >> Square said he is
> >> >>>>> totally in favor of the buses continuing to come into
> >> "his" mall...
> >> >>>>> StarMetro is going to try to make the mall put up any money
> >> >>>>> that would
> >> >>>>> be needed for "improvements" to make the parking lot
> >> traverse safe.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>> From: Easy Talk <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>> Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 12:09 pm
> >> >>>>> Subject: [tabi] Fw: starmetro info
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Here is a message Sila sent to me. Not sure where she
> >> got the info
> >> >>>>> though.
> >> >>>>> I find it interesting that Star metro has such stats
> >> available. I
> >> >>>>> guess
> >> >>>>> they get them from the fair boxes and sales of bus
> >> passes but if the
> >> >>>>> disabled fair and seniors pay the same, how do they
> >> determine between
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>> two. That said not counting the regular riders
> >> approximately 14.3
> >> >>>>> percent
> >> >>>>> of riders could be disenfranchised and most certainly some of
> >> >>>>> the other
> >> >>>>> riders.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>>> From: "Sila Miller" <MillerSi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>> To: <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <silam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:10 AM
> >> >>>>> Subject: starmetro info
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 89 thousand seniors
> >> >>>>> 53 thousand disabled
> >> >>>>> out of the 4.2 million
> >> >>>>> 3 quarters of those were covered under university contracts
> >> >>>>> Thus out of the approximate 1 million left,
> >> >>>>> 5.3 percent disabled
> >> >>>>> 9 percent seniors
> >> >>>>> so, disabled not such a small percentage after all
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
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