[tabi] Re: Fw: Re: Fw: starmetro info

From: ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:54:34 -0400

Robert,

I'm glad to here StarMetro has altered the route to better serve the300 residents of the apartment complex behind Publix... and you. And Iam pleased that StarMetro's communications are (finally) clear enoughto be useful.

I especially appreciate your suggestion that the turn-by-turndescriptions:

BEGIN at a specific location or intersection
AND
INDICATE BOTH the compass direction and left/right direction of turns

For those of you who perused even a portion of the lengthy routedescriptions I compiled over a month ago-- and SENT TO Starmetro as anexample of how directions should be given-- you will know that Iincluded these components, AS WELL as the points of intersection withother bus routes.

ALSO, points of interest-- shopping centers, stores, schools, publicfacilities, landmarks (such as Lake Ella)-- need to be listed.

So... do you still think they are listening???
Erica

----- Original Message -----
From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

This is pretty shallow thinking, Yes people rent cars or use cabs,

can

you guess why, there is no bus. What other choice do they have.
Also I guess going to the listening session didn't do any good. I

ask

them to make the loop on village square behind Publix to no avail.

It

seems like they would listen to my request since going behind Publix

would

be the side where cypress point apartments are located and the

complex has

300 units.
I say considering the facts we have so far and the unwillingness of

Star

Metro to listen to what the tax payers want that we stand against the
Nova210 plan and start writing to city commissioners now to try and

kill

the beast.

Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Evans" <evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

at the first meeting I went to the airport question was brought up.

It

was broken down into three groups
students come and go at the beginning and end of school terms. It is

hard

to schedule buses around this.
Business travelers use their own transportation either rent a car or

cab.

The same thing for tourist.
Busses need to be on a regular schedule each hour. Plains need to

match

the bus schedule or vice versa.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:12 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

They also don't go to the airport which is a city property and

could

have the potential for more riders.

Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mister Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:29 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

That would be counter productive. They should go to all major

places

like
the civic center Tallahassee museum , the malls and libraries and

such.

Thanks,
Blackjack
misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

On

Behalf
Of Lynn Evans
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:25 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

I would hope businesses world scream bloody murder also. I know the

Tallahassee Museum will no longer receive bus service under the

new

plan.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:51 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

you know, receivership means only that it will continue to

operate;

that's not a valid reason for refusing to serve it.






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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314

(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not

necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service

Commission.)

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:39 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

Robert & others,
Erica here. I passed this info to Sila. I got if from Owen, who
obtained it from StarMetro directly.
And, yes, seniors, disabled, and school-age children all pay
60 cents.

I'm pretty sure-- but not positive-- that when a discounted fare

is

deposited, the driver has to push a key-- presumably one of

these 3

categories-- to have the fare box accept it as a valid fare.
These figures and percentages are from 2008.
Interestingly, also from 2008, 29,979 people boarded at

Governor's

Square Mall; that's over 85 people per day. There were about

25,000

people boarding at Tallahassee Mall. There still seems to be no
concession from StarMetro on going into the malls. The argument

for

Tallahassee Mall, of course, is that since it is already in
recievership (close to being bankrupt), why bother? This is NOT,
however, a valid argument, of course, for Governor's Square.
Another tidbit: In 2008, the malls were the only 2 stops
among the top

20 (most boardings) which were not campus stops (FSU, FAMU, and

TCC--

don't recall the order). So, 1) this jives with the 76% of
riders being
students figure, and 2) makes it all the more ridiculous that
they are

refusing to go into the malls! The manager at Gov. Square said

he is

totally in favor of the buses continuing to come into "his"

mall...

StarMetro is going to try to make the mall put up any money
that would
be needed for "improvements" to make the parking lot traverse

safe.


-----Original Message-----
From: Easy Talk <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: [tabi] Fw: starmetro info

Here is a message Sila sent to me. Not sure where she got the

info

though.
I find it interesting that Star metro has such stats available.

guess
they get them from the fair boxes and sales of bus passes but if

the

disabled fair and seniors pay the same, how do they determine

between

the
two. That said not counting the regular riders approximately

14.3

percent
of riders could be disenfranchised and most certainly some of
the other
riders.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sila Miller" <MillerSi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <silam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: starmetro info

89 thousand seniors
53 thousand disabled
out of the 4.2 million
3 quarters of those were covered under university contracts
Thus out of the approximate 1 million left,
5.3 percent disabled
9 percent seniors
so, disabled not such a small percentage after all

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