[tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
- From: "Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:38:30 -0400
Well, not as cheep as Dial a ride or tal tran but it is a option. I bet they
will drop you off at the door where you are going and pick you up at your
door, and help you if needed. I use to ride them when they was in Quincy
Florida. It has been a long time ago.
Thanks,
Blackjack
misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Easy Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:52 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
Big Bend is a non profit transportation company that has contracts with the
TDC for non sponsored and medicade trips. Due to the current money problems
Big Bend will take you any where with in the city for $5 each way and I
think in the county for $12 each way. This is much better than the cab but
you have to call Big Bend directly and by a certain time for next day
service.
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:05 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
> Hi, where does Big bend come in at and just what kind of service do they
> offer and what kind of paid service do they offer? I just wonder if they
> could be used as a alternative? Also how about taxies? I know their might
> not be any free stuff or low amount of payments but how about a write off
> on
> your taxes if for medical I know it could be claimed under that. But how
> about work and grocery stores and such? Could this be taken off your
> taxes?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Blackjack
> misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Easy Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:54 AM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>
>
>> Robert,
>> Would you mind posting to TABI, or mind if I do?
>> I had absolutely no idea how the 3 systems were connected,
>> interdependent, and funded. Thanks for spelling this out for me.
>> Although I think lots of folks "know" this, I'm not sure they've
>> connected the dots so clearly.
>> Thank you so much!
>> Erica
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Easy Talk <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Tue, Oct 6, 2009 4:07 pm
>> Subject: Re: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>>
>> Hi Erica,
>>
>> You go girl!
>> I would like to point out the reality of some of the things you spoke
>> about
>> and maybe help people really understand the reality of what will most
>> likely
>> happen.
>>
>> In Leon county and Tallahassee there are 3 forms of public
>> transportation.
>> Two of them are the fixed bus system and Dial A ride. Think of the
>> fixed
>> bus system as the center circle and the smallest. Think of Dial A Ride
>> as a
>> system that operates 3 quarters of a mile out side of the center which
>> is
>> covered by the fixed route/bus system. Both of these services are
>> dependent
>> on each other and funded by federal dollars and the city. Dial A ride
>> is
>> given federal dollars based on compliance of federal guidelines that
>> only
>> require them to provide service to the Disabled, elderly and
>> economically
>> disadvantaged. Dial A Ride doesn't get paid for each trip they make.
>> They
>> are paid quarterly based on the service provided by the fixed route
>> system
>> and the coverage of the fixed route system. The third system is the
>> state/county service of the TDC which does get paid by the trip and
>> operates
>> any where the other two systems do not cover. For instance if you live
>> at
>> the governors mansion and want to go to the Bradford Ville Blues club,
>> you
>> would have to use the third option. The third option also covers
>> medicade
>> trips that aren't covered by the first two options. This service is
>> the one
>> that is in most cases not available since they currently only provide
>> rides
>> for medical and work.
>>
>> So what we are dealing with regarding the decentralization of Starmetro
>> is,
>> If you make the center circle/fixed system smaller then you also reduce
>> the
>> Dial A ride service since federal guidelines control the coverage out
>> side
>> the fixed route. I know some people have posted here that Dial A ride
>> provided more coverage than the federal law requires but in 20 years
>> here in
>> Tallahassee, it hasn't happened to me or anyone else I know. Even if
>> they
>> did, unless it was in writing as a city disability policy, I wouldn't
>> bank
>> on it based on my experience. Believe me if they did, it would be the
>> first
>> thing to go. Hell, FCB can't even meet in city hall which as a tax
>> payer, I
>> helped pay for.
>>
>>
>> It doesn't surprise me that Tallahassee would push for this since as we
>> all
>> know most of the bus stops in neighborhoods aren't accessible and also
>> most
>> of the current stops aren't either. By shrinking the coverage area,
>> just
>> think of the money the city will save.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:48 PM
>> Subject: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>>
>>
>>> I'm going to put this out here for all ears to hear once, and only
>> once.
>>> If you ride the bus, change-- not necessarily good-- is comin' You
>> have
>>> opportunities to possibly stop this change, or at least make it less
>>> inconvenient and dangerous for you or other riders. See below for
>> details
>>> on how you can get your questions answered and make your voice heard.
>>>
>>> If you DON'T ride the bus, you may think, "So what?"
>>> Here's what: With the current centralized system, virtually all
>> transfers
>>> are made downtown IN A SINGLE SAFE, CONTROLLED, PREDICTABLE, COVERED,
>>> ACCESSIBLE location. With the newly proposed decentralized system,
>> 90+% of
>>> transfers will be made on NUMBEROUS STREET CORNERS WITH OR WITHOUT
>> THE
>>> BENEFIT OF SIDEWALKS, FLAT TERRAIN, SHELTER, or any form of
>> ASSISTANCE;
>>> with (but probably without) the aid of audible crosswalk
>> signals,visible
>>> crosswalks, protective medians, and accessible signage. CERTAINLY
>> there
>>> will be no "ticket person" or supervisor on hand to aid you, nor will
>>> there be law enforcement nearby, should someone other than the bus
>>> approach you on the side of the road.
>>> You can imagine that it is possible that some folks who feel
>> comfortable
>>> riding the bus now will no long feel this way. When these folks stop
>>> riding the fixed bus system, where do you think they will turn for
>>> transportation?? Dial-a-Ride.
>>> So how well is Dial-a-Ride able to meet everyone's needs now? Are
>> there
>>> scheduling difficulties? Is there enough money to keep the system
>> going?
>>> Can anyone who's accepted ride for any purpose, or is prioritization
>>> occurring already? If you think Dial-a-Ride is crowded, stretched, or
>>> stressed NOW, imagine how it will fare when even more people come
>> looking
>>> for a seat.
>>> And, to the best I've been able to discern from the non-answers I've
>>> gotten from StarMetro personnel at the listening sessions I've
>> attended,
>>> NO, THERE IS NO MONEY SET ASIDE FROM STARMETRO TO BOLSTER
>> Dial-a-Ride.
>>> Neither have I been assured that there is money from StarMetro or any
>>> other department specifically set aside for the improvements needed
>> to
>>> make this a safe system, such as:
>>> 1. traffic controlling devices (protective medians, repainted
>> crosswalks,
>>> cameras to record or extra law enforcement to ticket red light
>> runners,
>>> reworked light signals to include arrows for turners and ample time
>> for
>>> pedestrian crossings, etc.)
>>> 2. amenities to make the stops and transfer points safe and
>> accessible
>>> (culverts over ditches, wide and flat sidewalks with curb cuts,
>>> removal/relocation of poles, low branches, etc., adequate lighting
>> and
>>> signage-- remember, from November thru March it gets dark well before
>>> 6:00pm). Also, any stop that does NOT include a shelter NEED NOT BE
>> A.D.A.
>>> accessible; StarMetro has only 30 shelters for this project (and may
>> use
>>> some existing ones), but there are AT LEAST 20 intersections one must
>>> navigate in order to fully use this network, and, ideally, each
>>> intersection would have at least 2 sheltered stops!!!
>>> StarMetro has not even hired an A.D.A. consultant yet. That is how
>>> concerned they are.
>>>
>>> And still, if you are not concerned, think about the proverbial
>> little old
>>> ladies coming back from the pharmacy on the bus. Surely you've seen
>> (or at
>>> least heard of) them. How will they manage???
>>>
>>> HOW TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD:
>>> You can attend a listening session:
>>> * Tue 10/6 / City Hall in the Tallahassee Room, 300 South Adams
>> Street, 12
>>> noon - 1 pm & 5:30 - 7:00 pm
>>> * Wed 10/7 / Leroy Collins Public Library, 200 West Park Avenue, 12 >
>>> noon - 1:00 pm
>>> * Thur 10/8 / Atkins Building in Koger Office Center, 1320 Executive
>>> Center Drive, 7:00 - 8:00 pm
>>> * Wed. 10/14 2:00 PM Meeting room, Miccosukee Hills Apartments,
>> 3201
>>> Miccosukee Road, Route 4- first bus stop after interning complex.
>>> * Wed. 10/14 / Leroy Collins Public Library, 200 West Park Avenue,
>> 5:30 -
>>> 7:00 pm
>>> * Thur 10/22 / Northeast Branch Library, 5513 Thomasville Road, 5:30 -
>>>> 7:00 pm
>>> * Tue 10/27 / B.L. Perry Jr. Branch Library, 2817 South Adams Street,
>>> 11:30 am - 1 pm & 5:30 - 7:00 pm
>>>
>>> or call starmetro at 891-5283
>>> or email them at nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Thank you for your consideration on this matter.
>>> Erica McCaul
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> Check out the TABI resource web page at
> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
> and please make suggestions for new material.
>
>
>
> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
> interface, or by sending an email to the address
> tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
>
> Check out the TABI resource web page at
> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
> and please make suggestions for new material.
>
>
>
> if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
> interface, or by sending an email to the address
> tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
Check out the TABI resource web page at
http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
and please make suggestions for new material.
if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
and please make suggestions for new material.
if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
Other related posts:
