[tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you

  • From: "Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:05:55 -0400

Hi, where does Big bend come in at and just what kind of service do they
offer and what kind of paid service do they offer? I just wonder if they
could be used as a alternative? Also how about taxies? I know their might
not be any free stuff or low amount of payments but how about a write off on
your taxes if for medical I know it could be claimed under that. But how
about work and grocery stores and such? Could this be taken off your taxes?



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Subject: [tabi] Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you

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From: <ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you

> Robert,
> Would you mind posting to TABI, or mind if I do?
> I had absolutely no idea how the 3 systems were connected, 
> interdependent, and funded. Thanks for spelling this out for me. 
> Although I think lots of folks "know" this, I'm not sure they've 
> connected the dots so clearly.
> Thank you so much!
> Erica
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Easy Talk <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue, Oct 6, 2009 4:07 pm
> Subject: Re: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
> Hi Erica,
> You go girl!
> I would like to point out the reality of some of the things you spoke 
> about
> and maybe help people really understand the reality of what will most 
> likely
> happen.
> In Leon county and Tallahassee there are 3 forms of public 
> transportation.
> Two of them are the fixed bus system and Dial A ride.  Think of the 
> fixed
> bus system as the center circle and the smallest.  Think of Dial A Ride 
> as a
> system that operates 3 quarters of a mile out side of the center which 
> is
> covered by the fixed route/bus system.  Both of these services are 
> dependent
> on each other and funded by federal dollars and the city.  Dial A ride 
> is
> given federal dollars based on compliance of federal guidelines that 
> only
> require them to provide service to the Disabled, elderly and 
> economically
> disadvantaged.  Dial A Ride doesn't get paid for each trip they make.  
> They
> are paid quarterly based on the service provided by the fixed route 
> system
> and the coverage of the fixed route system.  The third system is the
> state/county service of the TDC which does get paid by the trip and 
> operates
> any where the other two systems do not cover.  For instance if you live 
> at
> the governors mansion and want to go to the Bradford Ville Blues club, 
> you
> would have to use the third option.  The third option also covers 
> medicade
> trips that aren't covered by the first two options.  This service is 
> the one
> that is in most cases not available since they currently only provide 
> rides
> for medical and work.
> So what we are dealing with regarding the decentralization of Starmetro 
> is,
> If you make the center circle/fixed system smaller then you also reduce 
> the
> Dial A ride service since federal guidelines control the coverage out 
> side
> the fixed route. I know some people have posted here that Dial A ride
> provided more coverage than the federal law requires but in 20 years 
> here in
> Tallahassee, it hasn't happened to me or anyone else I know.  Even if 
> they
> did, unless it was in writing as a city disability policy, I wouldn't 
> bank
> on it based on my experience.  Believe me if they did, it would be the 
> first
> thing to go.  Hell, FCB can't even meet in city hall which as a tax 
> payer, I
> helped pay for.
> It doesn't surprise me that Tallahassee would push for this since as we 
> all
> know most of the bus stops in neighborhoods aren't accessible and also 
> most
> of the current stops aren't either.  By shrinking the coverage area, 
> just
> think of the money the city will save.
> Robert
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>    Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:48 PM
> Subject: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>> I'm going to put this out here for all ears to hear once, and only 
> once.
>> If you ride the bus, change-- not necessarily good-- is comin' You 
> have
>> opportunities to possibly stop this change, or at least make it less
>> inconvenient and dangerous for you or other riders. See below for 
> details
>> on how you can get your questions answered and make your voice heard.
>> If you DON'T ride the bus, you may think, "So what?"
>> Here's what: With the current centralized system, virtually all 
> transfers
>> ACCESSIBLE location. With the newly proposed decentralized system, 
> 90+% of
>> transfers will be made on NUMBEROUS STREET CORNERS WITH OR WITHOUT 
>> with (but probably without) the aid of audible crosswalk 
> signals,visible
>> crosswalks, protective medians, and accessible signage. CERTAINLY 
> there
>> will be no "ticket person" or supervisor on hand to aid you, nor will
>> there be law enforcement nearby, should someone other than the bus
>> approach you on the side of the road.
>> You can imagine that it is possible that some folks who feel 
> comfortable
>> riding the bus now will no long feel this way. When these folks stop
>> riding the fixed bus system, where do you think they will turn for
>> transportation?? Dial-a-Ride.
>> So how well is Dial-a-Ride able to meet everyone's needs now? Are 
> there
>> scheduling difficulties? Is there enough money to keep the system 
> going?
>> Can anyone who's accepted ride for any purpose, or is prioritization
>> occurring already? If you think Dial-a-Ride is crowded, stretched, or
>> stressed NOW, imagine how it will fare when even more people come 
> looking
>> for a seat.
>> And, to the best I've been able to discern from the non-answers I've
>> gotten from StarMetro personnel at the listening sessions I've 
> attended,
> Dial-a-Ride.
>> Neither have I been assured that there is money from StarMetro or any
>> other department specifically set aside for the improvements needed 
> to
>> make this a safe system, such as:
>> 1. traffic controlling devices (protective medians, repainted 
> crosswalks,
>> cameras to record or extra law enforcement to ticket red light 
> runners,
>> reworked light signals to include arrows for turners and ample time 
> for
>> pedestrian crossings, etc.)
>> 2. amenities to make the stops and transfer points safe and 
> accessible
>> (culverts over ditches, wide and flat sidewalks with curb cuts,
>> removal/relocation of poles, low branches, etc., adequate lighting 
> and
>> signage-- remember, from November thru March it gets dark well before
>> 6:00pm). Also, any stop that does NOT include a shelter NEED NOT BE 
> A.D.A.
>> accessible; StarMetro has only 30 shelters for this project (and may 
> use
>> some existing ones), but there are AT LEAST 20 intersections one must
>> navigate in order to fully use this network, and, ideally, each
>> intersection would have at least 2 sheltered stops!!!
>> StarMetro has not even hired an A.D.A. consultant yet. That is how
>> concerned they are.
>> And still, if you are not concerned, think about the proverbial 
> little old
>> ladies coming back from the pharmacy on the bus. Surely you've seen 
> (or at
>> least heard of) them. How will they manage???
>> You can attend a listening session:
>> * Tue 10/6 / City Hall in the Tallahassee Room, 300 South Adams 
> Street, 12
>> noon - 1 pm & 5:30 - 7:00 pm
>> * Wed 10/7 / Leroy Collins Public Library, 200 West Park Avenue, 12 >
>> noon - 1:00 pm
>> * Thur 10/8 / Atkins Building in Koger Office Center, 1320 Executive
>> Center Drive, 7:00 - 8:00 pm
>> * Wed. 10/14  2:00 PM   Meeting room, Miccosukee Hills Apartments, 
> 3201
>> Miccosukee Road, Route 4- first bus stop after interning complex.
>> * Wed. 10/14 / Leroy Collins Public Library, 200 West Park Avenue, 
> 5:30 -
>> 7:00 pm
>> * Thur 10/22 / Northeast Branch Library, 5513 Thomasville Road, 5:30 -
>>> 7:00 pm
>> * Tue 10/27 / B.L. Perry Jr. Branch Library, 2817 South Adams Street,
>> 11:30 am - 1 pm & 5:30 - 7:00 pm
>> or call starmetro at 891-5283
>> or email them at  nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
>> Thank you for your consideration on this matter.
>> Erica McCaul
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