[tabi] Re: Braille signage-- demand and offer

  • From: "Easy Talk" <Easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 07:11:31 -0400

Chip, done did that.  They said it was almost impossible to get some one from 
Google to call them back and when they did, the process was too time consuming 
and would require a lot of resources to gather all the information and put it 
in the Google data base.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chip and Allie Orange 
  To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:17 PM
  Subject: [tabi] Re: Braille signage-- demand and offer

  If I could offer suggestions on things that would help everyone as well as 
the disabled (speaking up here as instructed):


  Please ask StarMetro to consider placing their route data on the Google 
transit system.  There are many free apps (I am writing one right now) which 
can then present the data from Google, as part of a complete set of 
instructions, as to how a person might need to walk and make use of the transit 
system to get from point A to point B.  Their instructions tell you exactly 
which streets to walk to; where the bus stop is located; what time the bus 
stops there and which one you should take, and how many stops later you should 
disembark from the bus, along with the remainder of your walking (or transfer) 
instructions.  They are amazingly clear and easy to use.


  Over 100 cities already participate on Google transit, and Google does this 
absolutely for free; and says they will help any city having a problem getting 
their data in the correct format.


  This makes use of the transit system by a blind person much easier, as users 
of my app in other cities are already telling me.  It completely replaces the 
paper maps and the inaccessible route planner from StarMetro with something 
accessible and maintained by someone else!  We all win.







  From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of blindwilly
  Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:21 PM
  To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; brian.waterman@xxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [tabi] Re: Braille signage-- demand and offer




  I have been in on this since the first, along with our TCB.   One thing I 
noticed is that for every one person that complained about the efforts, there 
were three that were positive.   We have a long way to go, but we have come a 
long way and farther than the mass majority of America.






    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Erica 

    To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; brian.waterman@xxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:15 PM

    Subject: [tabi] Braille signage-- demand and offer


    I am going to make an offer and a demand for the folks subscribed to TABI.

    There has been some hugh and cry regarding a perceived lack of information 
about the process used to determine how/if Braille signage should be included 
in Starmetro's attempts to improve our bus service.
    Many venues for information are open to the general public, including-- 
perhaps most obviously-- the City's Press Releases, which can be accessed 
through Talgov.com. Lynn Evans has done a wonderful job of faithfully and 
timely posting these to TABI... so there should be no excuses here about not 
having access to that information in the past. (Lynn, I am in no way obligating 
you to continue this service... but I certainly want to publicly thank you for 
all you have done!)
    IF, however, you still are uninformed, AND WISH TO BE, please email me 
off-line and I will provide you with a list of information sources.
    If you choose not to get involved--
    do not make an effort to inform yourself, 
    cannot find it in your schedule to make your voice heard in a productive 
    please remain silent about such issues.

    Starmetro has done a wonderful job in their efforts to get Braille signage 
to little ol' Tallahassee! 
    There have been a few snags, yes, but every pioneer has faced such 
    Startmetro DOES NOT NEED TO HEAR whining and crying at this point about 
opportunities individuals missed to have their input heard, or about a "better 
way" to do something they have already completed. That is no way to show our 
gratitude for their efforts, not to mention the efforts of the citizens who 
were involved. Starmetro NEEDS to hear "Thank you!"
    IT IS DONE. IT HAS BEEN DONE AS WELL AS WE-- Starmetro staff and involved 
    And, NO, in case you are wondering, it was not just 3 or 4 local folks 
stabbing in the dark; Department of Transportation and other national standards 
were consulted. (Thank you to Lynda Jones!)
    If you don't use the bus, then you will never have to worry about your hand 
getting a cramp from reading sideways. 
    However, for those of us who do ride, this will be a HUGE help! I'm sure we 
are smart enough to read Braille "sideways", just as sightlings adapt to signs 
written vertically.
    Let's move forward with positive comments only. 
    just like Thumper's father told him, "If you can't say anything nice, don't 
say nothin' at all."


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