Still do not have an I phone. the jitterbug that I have been using for about _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:00 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Apps For The Blind And Visually Impaired: iPad/iPhone Apps AppList Yes, it does. [Mimi Robinson] three years has such excellent customer service that I am not sure that at and t atand t will have same. My husband has ab I phone with att so economically it would be the only way to go for the family plan. My vision is so dismal that jaws is my best option. Zoom text is no longer usefull so I am a little wary of how frustrated I may get with an I phone. [Mimi Robinson] I take victor with me always except when I am walking Magic and it would be nice to get music on the phone, as well as listen to books. Anyone use the music and books apps? Has Dean Martineau come out with the four s instructions? Oh well. Comments welcome's [Mimi Robinson] [Mimi Robinson] [Mimi Robinson] It has changed my life with some of the ways it has been of help to me. Terri ----- Original Message ----- From: Allison and <mailto:acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx> Chip Orange To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: Apps For The Blind And Visually Impaired: iPad/iPhone Apps AppList Thanks Terri; it's something unfamiliar to me. Does it have a camera so it can run the OCR and color and money identification apps? Thanks. Chip _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:01 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Apps For The Blind And Visually Impaired: iPad/iPhone Apps AppList Hi Guys! Rather than having the expense of the iPhone, I use an iPod Touch. I absolutely love it! I can enjoy all of the apps that you use with the Iphone. The only thing is, that you have to have access to a wireless connection to take advantage of anything that uses the internet. This is a much more cost effective solution. Of course, you can not use it everywhere you go, like the iPhone. Many public places and offices do have wireless available to visiters. I can't go on enough about what a great thing this has been for me. For my particular situation, it has been much more affordable to have the iPod Touch with a wireless connection at home and have a basic cheap cell phone plan. For anyone who might not be familiar with the iPod Touch, basically it will do practically everything an iPhone will do with the exception of the capability to make phone calls. I hope this information might be helpful to someone. Take care everyone. Terri ----- Original Message ----- From: Allison and <mailto:acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx> Chip Orange To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:45 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: Apps For The Blind And Visually Impaired: iPad/iPhone Apps AppList Hi Jim, Since no one else replied on list anyway, I'll give you my guesses, as well as another point of view. A friend of mine owns an I-phone, and pays around $100 per month. You could probably take a lower data plan (less bytes per month), and less minutes, and get it down somewhat, but I doubt you'll get it under $80 per month. If you buy any apps which price themselves as a service with a monthly fee, of course that will add more. Almost all of the apps (the really useful ones which do something with analyzing data) do require a data plan, as they send the image or the sound of your voice back over the data link to a server, where it's processed, and the result is sent back to your phone; so you can't get away with buying a voice plan only. There's also the cost of the phone initially, and you'll have to sign something like a two-year contract; getting out of the contract will cost you almost as much as finishing out the contract. You asked about which model of I-phone; from my reading (I don't own one) it sure looks like the 4S with its speech recognition capabilities would be the preferred phone. Here's the other point of view part: every one I know says "I love my I-phone (or smart phone)", so you all don't need to write to tell me that, I know it from other times when I've presented this point of view. My point is that, especially for someone who has to live on SSI or SSDI, these phones are far too expensive; selling you "coolness", but coolness at too high a price. And when your contract is over, unlike if you had purchased a talking GPS or a talking barcode scanner, you have nothing. To continue having OCR or GPS capabilities you have to sign another contract. Therefore, I think most blind people who live on such restricted incomes, would be better off using one of the prepaid phones (which cost around $80 a year, instead of $1200 a year), and then consider purchasing OCR devices or software, barcode scanners, laptops, etc. instead. They don't have the cool factor I know, but you often can buy such devices refurbished or used, and of course you own them. More than just own them, you're under no contract to continue to pay for them; if you need your money for something else, you don't have to keep paying it every month to a phone provider; you are much more in control of your financial world. Note that this is not a discussion on how nice the smart phones are, or what they can do; only that financially I believe you have better choices. I also have reservations that blind people who can afford these phones, are encouraging those who cannot, to buy them. Even to the point of encouraging others to get rid of their household landline. Once you feel you can easily spare $1200 a year and not miss it, then go for it and enjoy! (but then I'll argue there are few people who can really afford to spend $1200 a year and not miss it, there's always a stronger argument for saving that money). I hope you received some off-list replies at least to your question (I was surprised not to see any answers), but I thought this issue was important enough to be raised on the list. Good luck, Chip _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of K4NKZ Jim Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:46 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Apps For The Blind And Visually Impaired: iPad/iPhone Apps AppList thanks! for all this info! questions: 1, which apple phone is the best for us to get? 2, is their one for OCR? 3, what would be the monthly cost for the Apps and phone use? Have A Nice Day, From, K4NKZ Jim B.D.T.B. On 5/19/2012 2:52 PM, Lynn Evans wrote: This may be useful, I hope. http://appadvice.com/applists/show/apps-for-the-visuall y-impaired