I just listened to a great article on this from npr; any one interested can get it from http://thin.npr.org/s.php?sId=321049308 It said a study on pedestrian safety was just released, and Florida was one of the unsafest states, with the top four unsafe cities being in Florida. (no news to Robert or Sila I'm guessing). It blamed a culture in the state believing that roads are only for drivers, and laid a lot of the blame at the feet of law enforcement. In Orlando, their police are mounting sting operations, where they have undercover police pose as pedestrians to ticket motorists who ignore the laws for pedestrian safety. Chip