[SS2S-Main] Re: Rocket help request

  • From: "James Jason Wentworth" <blackshire@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 16:16:49 -0900

Hello Roman,

I would very much appreciate that--Thank You!  I purchased one package of 
Rapier L1 motors from "Shorty's Basement" (a U.S. hobby vendor that specializes 
in Free-Flight model airplanes), and soon afterward they were unable to obtain 
more Rapier motors because of the Czech government's re-classification of the 
Rapier motors as fireworks.  If he could make arrangements to export his Rapier 
motors to the USA and Canada again, the market here is very large, with great 
potential for growth.

-- Jason
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roman Lev 
  To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:36 AM
  Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Rocket help request

  I know Dr. Zikmund personally. I will forward this e-mail to him if there is 
any help :-)


  ---------- Původní zpráva ----------
  Od: william colburn <space1space@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Datum: 1. 1. 2014
  Předmět: [SS2S-Main] Re: Rocket help request

    Beware of the site on ebay that offered a formula for loading Jetex 
Engines. They gave the Micrograin formula which would not only melt the 
aluminum motor casing but probably would first disassemble it  instantaneously.

    Terry McElheran developed a castable formulation for Jetex. I have his 
complete set of lab notebooks. I will search them for the right formulation.

    IIRC his formulation used AN which is a. not so available now and b. In AZ 
worked fine but in higher humidities would show its hygroscopic nature.

    There are workarounds however for that one fault.

    More later. 

    Gravity is a Stern Mistress..
    The Tick.

    From: James Jason Wentworth <blackshire@xxxxxxxxxx>
    To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 12:57 AM
    Subject: [SS2S-Main] Rocket help request

    Hello All,

    Yesterday and today I have received numerous messages on the SS2S e-mail 
list.  I was wondering if anyone here could offer suggestions to solve a 

    I am a Jetex and Rapier model jets enthusiast (see: http://www.jetex.org/ 
).  While Jetex motors and fuel haven't been made since 1972, Dr. Jan Zigmund 
("Dr. Z") in the Czech Republic has developed the Rapier motors, which are 
single-use replacements for the Jetex motors (see: 
www.jetex.org/motors/motors-rapier.html ).  Unfortunately, they can now no 
longer be imported into the USA because the Czech government has re-classified 
them as fireworks instead of as smoke generators.  Also:

    Recalling David Sleeter's "Incredible Five Cent Sugar Rocket" which could 
be made safely--and in quantity--at a kitchen table using ordinary household 
materials (see: http://blizzard.rwic.und.edu/~nordlie/rocket/nickle.html , 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk3RV0lLygk , and 
http://nineball.ve.carpathiahost.net/zero/Articles/Sugar_Rockets.html ), 
something similar to this but optimized for model jet use (an end-burner 
producing 1/10 of a newton or so of thrust, for 10 - 20 seconds or more) would 
enable Jetex and Rapier flyers in the western hemisphere to enjoy our hobby 
with no worries about being unable to obtain jet motors for our models.  Could 
anyone here suggest propellant formulas for such low-thrust, long-burning jet 
motors?  (The Rapier motors link above includes performance figures for the 
various Rapier motors.)  Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help!

    Sincerely Yours,

    James Jason Wentworth


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