[SS2S-Main] Re: Rocket help request

  • From: "Roman Lev" <r-composites@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:36:53 +0100 (CET)

I know Dr. Zikmund personally. I will forward this e-mail to him if there is
any help :-)


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Od: william colburn <space1space@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Datum: 1. 1. 2014
Předmět: [SS2S-Main] Re: Rocket help request


Beware of the site on ebay that offered a formula for loading Jetex Engines.
They gave the Micrograin formula which would not only melt the aluminum 
motor casing but probably would first disassemble it  instantaneously.

Terry McElheran developed a castable formulation for Jetex. I have his 
complete set of lab notebooks. I will search them for the right formulation.

IIRC his formulation used AN which is a. not so available now and b. In AZ 
worked fine but in higher humidities would show its hygroscopic nature.

There are workarounds however for that one fault.

More later. 

Gravity is a Stern Mistress..
The Tick.

From: James Jason Wentworth <blackshire@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 12:57 AM
Subject: [SS2S-Main] Rocket help request


Hello All,

Yesterday and today I have received numerous messages on the SS2S e-mail 
list.  I was wondering if anyone here could offer suggestions to solve a 

I am a Jetex and Rapier model jets enthusiast (see: http://www.jetex.org/
(http://www.jetex.org/) ).  While Jetex motors and fuel haven't been made 
since 1972, Dr. Jan Zigmund ("Dr. Z") in the Czech Republic has developed 
the Rapier motors, which are single-use replacements for the Jetex motors 
(see: www.jetex.org/motors/motors-rapier.html
(http://www.jetex.org/motors/motors-rapier.html) ).  Unfortunately, they can
now no longer be imported into the USA because the Czech government has re-
classified them as fireworks instead of as smoke generators.  Also:

Recalling David Sleeter's "Incredible Five Cent Sugar Rocket" which could be
made safely--and in quantity--at a kitchen table using ordinary household 
materials (see: http://blizzard.rwic.und.edu/~nordlie/rocket/nickle.html
(http://blizzard.rwic.und.edu/~nordlie/rocket/nickle.html) , http://www.
, and http://nineball.ve.carpathiahost.net/zero/Articles/Sugar_Rockets.html
(http://nineball.ve.carpathiahost.net/zero/Articles/Sugar_Rockets.html) ), 
something similar to this but optimized for model jet use (an end-burner 
producing 1/10 of a newton or so of thrust, for 10 - 20 seconds or more) 
would enable Jetex and Rapier flyers in the western hemisphere to enjoy our 
hobby with no worries about being unable to obtain jet motors for our 
models.  Could anyone here suggest propellant formulas for such low-thrust, 
long-burning jet motors?  (The Rapier motors link above includes performance
figures for the various Rapier motors.)  Many thanks in advance to anyone 
who can help!

Sincerely Yours,

James Jason Wentworth


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