specurtin-committee Re: agenda

  • From: Winston Kosasih <wkosasih88@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: specurtin-committee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 21:02:07 +0800


I find your response a tad bit offensive. If you honestly think that I have
suggested this in my own interests then you have sadly mistaken.

I refer you to this link (http://www.spe.org/groups/chapters/OpsCalendar.php)
and I quote:

"Membership development activities should be conducted."

It should be pretty clear that SPE intends for us to recruit student members
for them. Again, I am not saying we shouldn't recruit members into the guild
but remember what we refer ourselves as: *SPE*CSC. SPE membership takes

As for your claim that we set ourselves up let me just ask you one question
Chris. Who did we have to get approval from before we became set up as an
SPE student chapter?

I would also like to clarify what I meant when I said "Our main aim is to
get students to become members of SPE". It seems that you have misunderstood
what I meant. No, I do not mean for us as committee members spend all our
efforts recruiting student members for SPE. If that had been my intention do
you think I would have agreed to run all these events? What was the point
then, of Ziad spending immense amounts of efforts to gather sponsors? What I
meant is our recruitment focus should mainly be on SPE. It might have been a
mistake on my part for not communicating this clearly and for this I

I know you are passionate about student representation and what not but what
you have to understand is aside from being a student representation we are
also a local branch of an association. What that means is that we not only
have to pay attention to the interests of the students but we also have to
address those of the association. Remember that if our member count falls
below a certain number SPE has the right to stop our operations.

Now if you still childishly think that I have suggested the above issues in
my own interests then allow me to apologize. I can endure criticisms and
accusations, however misjudged they may be but I will not allow tensions and
conflict to arise in the committee I lead as the only thing it will lead to
is loss of cooperation and subsequently the downfall of the team.


On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Christopher Coman <
c.coman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Winston,
>  Firstly, when recruiting students on O-Day, and at orientation, we are
> recruiting them to the SPECSC, which is a chapter of the broader SPE. We had
> handouts for how to join the SPE, and will be encouraging all students who
> are petroleum engineers to join the SPE. Our membership is not limited to
> people who join the SPE but of course we will encourage our members to join.
> We are open to non-petroleum engineers too, and it would probably not be in
> their best interests to join the SPE, however that is up to them as
> individuals.
>  We, as a student club, are also affiliated to the Curtin Student Guild,
> which comes with a couple of responsibilities, that being giving $5 discount
> to guild members, as we are also a student club. There are no student clubs
> australia, or likely world wide, that operate independent of their student
> representative body. That would be foolish and cut us off from a source of
> local, on campus assistance and avenues and pathways for advertising and
> cross-promotion.
>  Another point I want to address is "why SPE set us up"... No, we set
> ourselves up with the assistance of the department. We are an independent
> body affiliated to the SPE. We should realistically have our own
> constitution (built from the SPE one) that dictates how we operate, and we
> are definately under the broader umbrella of the SPE, but as far as they are
> concerned, they do not dictate our actions or control the spending of the
> money that we raise. In fact, if you read the information on the
> "exceptional clubs" page you posted, is is the independence and action that
> we take as a student chapter that gives us that status.
>  Our main aim is NOT to get students to become members of SPE. And if you
> think it is, your focus is quite limited. Our purpose is to be a
> representative body for Petroleum Engineering Students at Curtin University,
> providing opportunities for them to network, obtain vacation and graduate
> employment, develop friendships and be able to contribute to their own
> education and experience of university. Joining SPE is something that will
> come along with this. We are also not focussed on having students join the
> guild, however we are required (by our own affiliation) to give a $5
> discount to those who have joined the guild, since we are Curtin Students,
> and you personally are required to join the guild if you wish to remain
> President of a Curtin Student Club, as a condition of our affiliation, which
> we voted upon as a committee.
>  Anyway, I've ranted enough. I'm not angry by the way, but student
> representation is something I am passionate about, and frankly if all you
> are interested in is getting numbers of people to join SPE, you need to get
> the attention off yourself and getting a plaque and onto the students and
> what would make a difference for them.
>  Authentically,
> Coman.
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* specurtin-committee-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> specurtin-committee-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Winston Kosasih [
> wkosasih88@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* 01 March 2011 11:49
> *To:* specurtin-committee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Cc:* Ellie Lock; Lisa Smith; Mofazzal Hossain
> *Subject:* specurtin-committee Re: agenda
>  Hey Ellie,
>  You forgot the graduate program with BG Group.
>  Also, this was another point I was going to bring up in the meeting but I
> might as well mention it now. When we talk about recruiting new students, we
> have always thought that it was for the "club" (the Curtin guild). While
> this is not a problem, I have figured that we have missed the whole point of
> why SPE set us up in the first place altogether.
>  Our main aim is to get students to *become members of SPE*. Not to join
> the guild club or list their name and contact details down so we can mail
> out information to them. Remember we ARE SPE, a branch of it, not
> a separate entity. SPEs aim of expanding their membership is therefore ours
> as well. This is also the main metric SPE uses to judge how well established
> a chapter is.
>  This perception needs to be rectified immediately and I feel the need to
> discuss how this is going to be achieved and kept track of in our next
> meeting.
>  Regards
> Winston
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Ellie Lock <
> ellie.lock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>  Here u go guys.
>> Let me know if ive missed anything?
>> Thanks
>> Ellie

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