Kia ora I realised what I did wrong I think!i ran my recipe past the person who has been mentoring me in my new soap adventure and he suggested the water discount thing sooo I am pretty sure that I shouldn't have discounted the water - ie I should have used the original amount. Yeah, cos then I remembered reading in soap naturally don't discount the water if you are doing something different or using fragrance oils..... I think the soap is actually ok cos I did manage to throw it into a mould before it totally flipped out but u live and learn! I have to confess I was really excited when my first batch of soap went weird, ie started to clump cos I had been reading about all these problems and I had made 20 batches of soap with no problems and I started thinking, what are all these people on about! They say u learn more from your mistakes! Its so true! Well how can u know what u don't want it if you havent experienced what you don't want! :) Arohanui Mandy Coleman Mokihinui Mansions 36-56 Lewis Street Mokihinui RD1 Westport 037821837 0273075881 -----Original Message----- From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ruth Taylor Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 3:56 p.m. To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@smtp102.tnz.mail.aue.yahoo.com Subject: [soapcraft] F.O's Hi Mandy, I don't use a lot of F.O's as I like to stick with the more natural stuff. However there are always consumer's who want a particular smell, and who am I to say no!! LOL. What I find helps apart from Liz's comment on mixing at a cooler temp. I take a little oil from my total oils and don't add to the pot to heat, but add my FO's to it. At a slightly cooler and a very light trace I add the FO/oil mix to the bulk soap and then pour quickly. I tend to use slab type moulds that you can pour into quickly. Also some FO's are quite well behaved. It comes down a little to trial and error ( and hopefully not too many error's) HTH. Cheers, Ruth ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- To unsubscribe from this list go to //www.freelists.org/list/soapcraft enter your email address and choose unsubscribe. Or you can send an email to soapcraft-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.151/2633 - Release Date: 01/19/10 17:49:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list go to //www.freelists.org/list/soapcraft enter your email address and choose unsubscribe. Or you can send an email to soapcraft-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------