Well i knew that this list would be slow in starting.:-) although about a dozen people have expressed interest in starting this list/group. there seem to be only a few that made it through the subscribe process. was it that difficult? :-) -- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of Dos and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings. http://www.nownetworks.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy