Hi all,
I've forwarded the below again (including my original question posted on
the Inclusive Android site), for clarity/context. I've also pasted the
response, which confirms my suspicion re this navigation issue being a
BrailleBack issue. I've also pasted my follow-up question.
*Begin pasted text of response*
Thinking it might be a BrailleBack issue.
Submitted by SienaT on Thu, 09/21/2017 - 21:03
Answer:
Hello,
I am having the same problem with BrailleBack when reading emails, I can
read the first lot of the email, however when I scroll forward any
further using the pan right command on my Braille display, it moves me
right to the bottom of the screen. This leads me to believe that this is
a BrailleBack bug and not a phone specific bug, as I am using a Motorola
Moto X Play and a Sony Xperia phone, and I'm having the same problem
with BrailleBack on both devices. I have asked about this on the
Eyes-Free list, and have not had any response.
P.S. Using a BraillePen 12 Touch, have also tested this with a Focus 40
Blue and an Alva BC640.
(End pasted text of response*
*Begin pasted text of my my follow-up question*
What about next BrailleBack update, and is BRLTTY an alternative
Submitted by Vivien on Fri, 09/22/2017 - 08:13
Answer:
Thank you so much, SienaT. So does anyone know then, whether this is
going to be addressed in the next BrailleBack update? The information I
read so far did not refer to this issue. And is BRLTTY perhaps an
alternative? From what I read so far on
http://www.brltty.com/archive/Android/brltty-on-android.html#navigating-...
and on
http://www.brltty.com/archive/Android/brltty-on-android.html#using-brltty
I gather that it does not require BrailleBack and is providing
screenreader functionality in its own right? (I used the Windows version
some years ago with NVDA, but that was back when the Braille display I
was using at that time was not directly supported in NVDA, but could be
used with BRLTTY.)
(End pasted text*
Vivien
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [smartvisionau] Navigating with Brailleback especially in
Bookreader - I've posted a question on Inclusive Android site as this is
still unresolved
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:34:25 +0800
From: Vivien Palcic <vivienpalcic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: smartvisionau@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: smartvisionau@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Sam and list,
I've now had my question published on the Inclusive Android site
(www.inclusiveandroid.com), in the "Community Questions And Answers"
section, and I also paste the text below for convenience:
*Begin pasted text*
Navigating with Brailleback when reading files in Kapsys Smartvision 2
phone's built-in Bookreader - can't get past first lot of text with
Braille display?
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Edit
Submitted by Vivien on Sun, 09/10/2017 - 21:08
I have a Kapsys Smartvision 2 phone and am trying to use it with my
Brailliant BI 40 Braille display - specifically for reading books/files
in the phone's built-in BookReader; but I can't keep reading with the
display past a bit of the first section after the table of contents. I
keep scrolling (with either panning keys (ie thumbkeys on the Brailliant
BI 40 device) or space with Command5 (ie right middle command key on the
device), as per the list of commands given in context Help for that
device, but either way, I just get the other options of BookReader -
Play/pause, Next, Previous, and even when I choose Next, it just starts
the audio reading of the book, but I end up back in table of contents
with the braille display. Isn't it possible to just keep reading
forwards with Brailleback, or is this to do with the phone's BookReader?
I raised this with Pacific Vision (the company that sell the phone in
Australia) and am awaiting clarification from them when they look into
this too, but I thought someone on here could clarify the situation
regarding navigating with Brailleback, as the support pages on Google's
site are not helpful, nor is the documentation for the phone, nor the
Brailliant BI 40 documentation. I was trying to read a Word file -
specifically, a book called "Braille on Display" by Jackie Brown
(purchased from www.mosen.org), and I am also aware the table of
contents isn't being rendered properly by the Bookreader and this has
also been reported to Kapsys, but I'm hoping someone can help regarding
this navigation issue. Your assistance/clarification would be greatly
appreciated!
*End pasted text*
I've also been in touch with HumanWare (given it is a Brailliant BI 40
I'm using as my Braille display), but was informed the issue is driven
by the screenreader being used, so it will be a matter of how TalkBack
works and what key mapping they have to the Brailliant. HumanWare is
also not able to provide extensive tech support for Braille displays
with Android systems.
Regards
Vivien
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