Även i Skånskan får Mac på pälsen på ledarsidan pga dålig support. PC är
bättre, där finns så många konkurrenter inom det egna systemet att de
måste sköta sig.
Tora.
2016-09-04 12:17 skrev Ahrvid:
Jag har postat ett par msg om det jag kallar (med tungan i kinden!)-----
MAC/PC-bråket. Om hur MidAmeriCon (MAC) slängde ut och bannlyste en
Dave Truesdale för att han inte var Politically Correct (PC) i en
panel han ledde. En allvarlig historia, som är ett hot mot den
tolerans och yttrandefrihet som bör råda inom science fiction och
fandom.
En animerad debatt har förstås uppstått i sf-världen (inte minst i
USA). Exempel:
http://therightgeek.blogspot.se/2016/09/now-about-dave-truesdale.html
"Dave did not "target marginalized fans." I love how fandom's SJW
cohort takes mocking comments about "special snowflakes" suffering
from "microaggressed disorder" who "need pearls to clutch" and distort
them into a "direct attack against diversity in the fandom." No --
what Dave was ridiculing was a particular toxic ideology whose
commitment to diversity and to "marginalized communities" is
superficial at best and actively harmful at worst. As a
chronically-ill woman, I don't subscribe to this ideology; indeed, I
would appreciate it greatly if the radical left would stop claiming
I'm, alternately, a fragile little china doll who needs to be
protected
Här utdrag från ett par ledande namn inom skiffyn:
http://www.scifiwright.com/2016/09/from-the-pen-of-moshe-feder/";
Sf-redaktören Moshe Feder:
"This is VERY disturbing. Speech suppression from the left is just as
wrong as any other kind and utterly in conflict with the ideals and
traditions of fandom.
Worldcon should never be in the position of enforcing political
correctness. The Ministry of Truth belongs in Orwell’s great SF novel,
not in SF’s fandom. Thought-crime has no place in a democratic
society, let alone in fandom’s benevolent anarchy. SF/Fantasy are
about the limitless universe of imagination, not the setting of
arbitrary limits.
I don’t know Truesdale [though we are FB friends] and have no idea
of his interests or agenda. I don’t even know what that panel was
about. It doesn’t matter. His rights need to be supported and Mac 2’s
action condemned. Anything else is an admission that the Puppies were
right about us.”
Unless the true reason for the ejection was something else and
better justified, I will be very disappointed if the con doesn’t offer
Truesdale, and fandom as a whole, a very public and abject apology for
such an ill-advised, egregious, and shameful action.
Sadly, the majority of the reactions here to this post and in
similar discussions elsewhere appears to demonstrate that the Puppies
were right about us in this respect. I find that horrifying."
Sad Puppies är - som tidigare nämnts på SKRIVA - en grupp som
blocknominerar verk till Hugo-priset för att motverka vad de anser
vara för mycket nominerade vänsterverk (Feder är inte anhängare av
dem, som framgår). Darell Schweizer så, författare, redaktör,
kritiker:
"I have now listened to the entire Truesdale-moderated panel from the
Worldcon. I revise my opinion considerably. I heard NO cause for Dave
Truesdale to be expelled or reprimanded in any way. I urge you all to
listen to the whole thing. It begins a little roughly. He’s got an
agenda. There is one angry exchange with someone in the audience, but
Neil Clarke calls for that person to calm down. After that it settles
down to a much more cordial discussion, even where the other panelists
think Dave is wrong. He allows them to disagree with him. He asks them
their opinions and encourages each panelist to speak. (I thought
Sheila Williams and Jonathan Strahan were particularly articulate and
interesting.) He actually does seem to follow the rule that the
moderator should speak a little less (or at least not more) than any
other panelist. If you only heard the first few minutes, you would
think this was a trainwreck, but if you listen to the whole thing, you
will discover that it settles dow
n into a good panel. It ends with applause and people are chatting
amiably. Dave jokes, “Since Gordon was late, he’s buying.” Laughter.
The end. I have certainly been on panels that were far more
contentious (or badly moderated) than this one.
So, where is the big disaster? Did everybody else hear a different
panel? What redeems this is that while Dave starts with a tirade, he
allows the other panelists to steer him back onto the subject and then
the panel proceeds normally.
It is distressing that you can actually get thrown out of a worldcon
for expressing an unpopular opinion. Are we only to allow bland
agreement?"
Sf-genren verkar inte må bra i USA. Genren skall radikalpolitiseras,
det skall vara kvotering och politisk korrekthet, och avvikande röster
attackeras och utfryses. Bråket till Hugo-priserna är ett symptom på
att något inte står rätt till. Men det har även varit omfattande bråk
inom författarorganisationen SFWA om politisk censur. Och World
Fantasy Awards statyett som föreställt HP Lovecraft skall efter en
aktivistkampanj bytas ut för att HPL ansågs vara rasist (han hade
ungefär samma attityder som väldigt många under tidigt 1900-tal).
Och begår man wrongthink på en kongresspanel blir man utslängd av
rättänkande, fanatiska fandommaoister.
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