[sib-access] Re: magnetic layout and results
- From: "Dan Rugman" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:09:29 +0100
Dave,
Not quite. The engraving rules dialog contains two options which tell
Sibelius when to justify the staves. These don't add page breaks. All that
happens is that the staves will be spread out if there are enough staves to
make it worth while. There would be no point if there were only two staves
because you'd end up with the first staff at the top of the page and the
second staff at the bottom.
I think the option you mean is in the Layout > Auto layout dialog. This
contains a whole pile of options for controlling when a page break will be
made. See 7.3 and 7.4 in the Sibelius Reference.
Dan Rugman
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: 16 July 2009 16:44
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Subject: [sib-access] Re: magnetic layout and results
Dan
Correct. However somewhere there is a control to tell Sib the percentage of
a filled page to allow before doing a page break, and another percentage to
not allow filling, if not large enough. Thought these were in the engraving
rules?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Rugman" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 08:10
Subject: [sib-access] Re: magnetic layout and results
Don't forget the optimise staff spacing option in the layout menu. It's
definitely worth running it before you start trying to force the system
layouts yourself.
Also, remember that the pages, systems and bars option in the Ctrl+F1 menu
gives you an overview of the page layout. You can use this as a guide before
printing.
Dan Rugman
visit the new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of
Sibelius Access.
www.musicaccess.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: 16 July 2009 15:58
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] Re: magnetic layout and results
Claudio,
Either in the magnetic layouts defaults, or perhaps in the style engraving
rules, you should find something that tells Sibelius how full to make a page
before breaking to a new page. This might help with your last 1/3 page and
spread things out a bit.
Also have you tried using one of the plug-ins that allow control of the
systems per page? I can't remember the name of that plug-in but I've used it
to control the number of systems per page.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudio Sacco" <cl.sacco@xxxxxxxx>
To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 02:15
Subject: [sib-access] magnetic layout and results
Hello
I just want to tell bout the results of my magnetic layout experiences. It's
a score for piano rather crowded, many chords and often two voices per
staff. At some places the left hand sometimes has to cross over the right.
There are many long and short slurs. Most of times the long slurs are for
the first voice of the right-hand staff and the short slurs for the second
voice of the same staff. There are also irregular rhythms like triols and
ohter irregular things. various dynamics words.
End of description.
Slurs going over system breaks often cut the stem of the last note of the
line and also cut the stem of the first note of the next line. Magnetic
layout should have moved these slurs upwards. Slurs at places with irregular
thythms cross under the irregular rhythm marking; better would be to cross
above them. The spacing between staves and system could be improved; it is
most of times still too little. The score would be better be laid out on
three full pages; actually it fills two pages and a thirt of a page. Another
slur problem occurs, where the left hand crosses over the right. These slurs
also should be moved upwards. In general the slurs below are handled better
than the slurs above.
It may be, that things could be improved by making settings in the magnetic
layout options, but first I have to read about it and experiment further
more with a sighted assistant.
Regards
Claudio
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