Daniel, Thanks for all your help. With your notes, combined with a conversation with FS, I've got everything exactly the way I want it now. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Rugman Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:29 AM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Slightly O.T. Want to use SAPI voices with Sib Access Hi Kevin, Sorry, I didn't do a very good job of explaining this. When you choose the level for an individual symbol it will be spoken at that level and all levels above it. So, setting period to All means that the period will only be spoken when you set the punctuation level to all. Setting period to most, it will be spoken when the punctuation level is most or all. Setting the period to none means that periods will be spoken when the punctuation level is none, some, most or all. If you don't want to hear a particular symbol you should set it to most, some or none and then set the punctuation level to a level which is higher than the level for the symbol. Hope this makes more sense, Dan Rugman visit the new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of Sibelius Access. www.musicaccess.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: 16 March 2009 05:46 To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Slightly O.T. Want to use SAPI voices with Sib Access Dan, You said that if I chose All in the radio buttons, than only characters that had been set to all in the list would be spoken. Unfortunately, near as I can figure out, the relationship between the radio buttons and the characters is such that whatever you choose in the list is assigned to that radio button and there's no way to, for example, set period to most and then set the radio button to all so that the period isn't spoken. What I can seem to do is set the preferences I want using the JAWS v command on a one time basis. But when I Alt Tab out and back, the settings I made for punctuation are lost. Remember that this applies only to the SAPI voices. I don't have any of these problems with the eloquence default profile. sorry to bother you with this. Left a message on the JAWS list but haven't seen any replies. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Rugman Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:01 PM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Slightly O.T. Want to use SAPI voices with Sib Access Kevin, You can set the verbosity levels for each application separately through the configuration manager. Make sure that you're in the application you want to set the verbosity for and then press JAWS+6. The configuration manager will open with the JCF file for that app loaded. Pressing Alt+S brings up a menu which contains all the dialogs which you can use to configure the verbosity. Customize Punctuation lets you specify how each punctuation character will be spoken at the different punctuation levels. It contains a list view of all the punctuation characters. Pressing space on each item will make it cycle through four options: all, most, some and none. After the list is a group of four radio buttons. These correspond to the same options in the list of characters. If you choose all in the radio buttons, then only characters which have been set to all in the list will be spoken. Likewise for most, some and none. Hope this helps, Dan Rugman visit the new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of Sibelius Access. www.musicaccess.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: 15 March 2009 20:10 To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Slightly O.T. Want to use SAPI voices with Sib Access Dear All, I have JAWS 10 on my system with Sib Access. I would like to use the SAPI voices with Sib Access instead of Eloquence even though I've been told that the SAPI voices are much slower and are best used when reading long documents. I just like the sound. Not only that, I have multiple computers and I would benefit from having different voices for each so I know which one is speaking to me at any given time. The problem is that I can't arrive at a workable compromise that gives me the right level of spoken punctuation. If I have punctuation set to all, that will make JAWS read the names of files located in folders with periods in their names before the .3, such as exe files with detailed version numbers, correctly. However, If I do that, I hear much too much punctuation when I'm in apps like Sibelius and Sonar. However, if I minimize the punctuation to an appropriate level for Sibelius, file names of the sort I just described are read as having dates in the body of their title when read by JAWS in Windows Explorer. For someone who has used JAWS as long as I have, I'm simply not as accomplished as I should be. A little vision is a dangerous thing. Is their a solution that will give me the punctuation compromise I want? I seem to get what I want when I'm in the default voice with Eloquence. 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