Annabelle, I don't have any problems adding a scoop or fall and they are described properly in the score. If other symbols are being described then these should be as well. It may be that no symbol has been added at all. The only thing I can think of is that you didn't press the SpaceBar to select the symbol in the dialog. If you don't press Space then you will either add the last symbol to be selected in the table or no symbol at all. I wouldn't add symbols as text items. There are all sorts of reasons why this is a bad idea but the obvious one is that the filters will treat the symbol as a text item. Dan Rugman visit the new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of Sibelius Access. www.musicaccess.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison Sent: 20 July 2009 14:41 To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Scoop and Fall I found it, and I tried to apply the symbol, but it didn't appear. Usually Sibelius would tell me if there was a symbol next to a note. Is there a way to attach a symbol to a shortcut key? Or perhaps attach it to part of a word menu, in this case, technique words? If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx