Dave, Trust me on this one. I do this for a living in countries where PLAYERS, GOOD PLAYERS, don't speak English. In the rare cases where there's an A at bar 1 of my charts without a pickup bar, and I can't think of one right this instant, I account for everything. If I do it, and it's not common, I do it for a reason and the reason is correct. In the end, respectfully, I'm the one who makes a living in front of thousands with charts I made myself. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:58 AM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Help With First and Second Endings Kevin, Then just tell the performers "Take it from the top". Much simpler for them than searching for a rehearsal mark amongst the clef, time signature, key signature, instrument name, metronome or tempo marks that are usually clustered at that same spot. Throwing a rehearsal mark there, even if sitting up high just adds clutter for no good reason. Take it from the top. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 08:01 Subject: [sib-access] Re: Help With First and Second Endings There are cases where you need a rehearsal mark on bar 1. If thee is no pickup in the piece and you have a long score for lots of players, you could easily need a rehearsal mark at 1. -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:35 AM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Help With First and Second Endings Justin, Claudio brings up exactly my question, as well. A rehearsal mark is usually a marker needed somewhere in the piece. Telling the player to "go to the beginning of the score" is more meaningful to them than telling them to go to mark "A" and having them look for it all over the place. Musicians are not accustomed to looking at the beginning for a rehearsal mark. That said, you could probably fool Sibelius. Start your score on bar 2. leave bar 1 empty Put your rehearsal mark on bar 2 Delete the preceding bar. If you already have music on the first bar, see if you can insert a bar at the beginning and then do the steps above. Don't know if this will work, but it might. Dave much easier to do ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Kauflin" <BlindGuy500@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 22:52 Subject: [sib-access] Re: Help With First and Second Endings Hey, I have another question for you wizards out there. I'm trying to insert a rehearsal mark so that it is placed at the beginning of bar 1. Does anyone have any advice on how to do this. Right now, when I am at the beginning of bar 1 and I press control + R, it shows up at the beginning of bar 2. Thanks again in advance! Justin If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx