[sib-access] Re: [Bulk] enlargement the spaces
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- Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:56:28 -0800
Open the score in sibelius 6, and do the magnetic lay out.
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[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of saeed Mirzazadeh
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:40 PM
To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] enlargement the spaces
Dear Dave,
thank you so much for your kind help.
another problem is when i put "expressions" or "tecnics" or "line"
text or signs all together on one note, usually they overlap each
other. this problem was not removed by enlarging the space of the
staves. what do you and other friends advice?
Warm Regards,
Saeed
On 11/12/11, Farfar on Laptop <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Saeed,
>
> One more bit of information from Dan Rugman talking about how to properly
> position text in the title area...
>
> Manual Positioning of Text in the Title Area
>
> I must point out that there is a lot of approximation going on, and the
> complexity of the thing should make it clear just how much room for error
> there is. In short, get someone with eyes to do this, it's much easier.
>
> There are a lot of things to do and they're spread out across several
> different dialogs. There is a certain logic to it, but it isn't
immediately
> apparent.
>
> 1. In the document set up dialog, move the top staff margin to make room
> before you start.
>
> This is the distance between the top line of the top most staff and the
top
> page margin. Increasing it pushes the top staff down, and all the other
> staves with it. It is measured in millimetres, inches, or points,
depending
> on which radio button you choose. For what you're about to do, it is best
to
> choose points. All will become clear. Before going on, set the top staff
> margin to a far bigger number than is necessary. This will make sure that
> you've got room to move everything around. You then reset it at the end to
> move everything up into the ideal position. For now, set it to 144 points
(2
> inches).
>
> 2. Calculate the space height
>
> The positions of text items is stated as the number of spaces away from
the
> centre line of the staff. A space is the distance between two adjacent
lines
> on the staff. Since the staff height refers to a five line staff, which
has
> four spaces in it, the space height can be calculated by dividing the
staff
> height by 4. A typical space height is 5pt, this is with a staff height of
> 20pt (7mm).
>
> 3. Vertically position the text items
>
> Tempo text has a default position of 3 spaces above the middle line. This
is
> set in the default positions dialog (not the edit text style dialog as you
> might expect). If there is nothing above the top line of the top staff,
this
> will be fine. However, if there was a note of C6 (second line above), the
> tempo text will need moving up to a higher position. A safe place would be
6
> spaces away from the middle. You can do this by selecting the tempo text
and
> pressing Ctrl+UpArrow three times. Unfortunately, you will not be told the
> vertical off-set because the properties is only displaying 0 in the y
> coordinate box.
>
> 4. Top edge of text
>
> Before positioning the composers name you need to know where the top edge
of
> the tempo text is. You do this by converting the point size of the tempo
> text font into line spaces and adding it to the vertical off-set of the
> tempo text.
>
> The font size is found in the edit text style dialog. Select tempo and
then
> press edit. The first page of the dialog that opens shows the point size.
> The first size box is for the full size and the second for the parts.
>
> If the space is 5pt and the font size is 13pt, the size in spaces is 13/5
=
> 2.6. So, the top of the tempo text is the vertical off-set + the height in
> spaces. 6 + 2.6 = 8.6.
>
> Add a line space for good clearance and this gives you the vertical
off-set
> of the composer text. You can either change the default position or find
the
> existing default position and use the arrow keys to push it up to the new
> position. In this case, 10 spaces should be safe.
>
> You now have to repeat the process for the title text. In brief.
> (a) Composer text is 11pt. 11 / 5 == 2.2 spaces.
> (b) Top of composer text is 10 + 2.2 = 12.2.
> (c) Position title text at 13 spaces (0.8 spaces for clearance.
>
> 5. Fix the top staff margin.
>
> The top staff margin has to be set so that there is enough room for all of
> the above. The title text was positioned at 13 spaces above the middle
line.
> This is 11 spaces above the top line of the top staff (2 spaces for the
> fourth and fifth lines). However, the title text is 22pt (4.4 spaces) and
> this needs to be considered. So finally, the top of the title is 11+4.4 =
> 15.4 spaces above the top line of the top staff. For safety, let's call it
> 16 spaces.
>
> The top staff margin is stated in points so we need to convert it. 16 *5 =
> 80pt.
>
> If you think this looks like a lot, 80 pt is about 1.1 inches.
>
> Simple isn't it!
>
> Dan Rugman
>
>
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:04
> Subject: [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] enlargement the spaces
>
>
> Dave,
> i use Sibelius 5.2.5.
> Saeed
>
> On 11/12/11, Farfar on Laptop <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> What version of Sibelius are you using?
>> Dave Carlson
>> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 03:41
>> Subject: [Bulk] [sib-access] enlargement the spaces
>>
>>
>> hi all.
>> how can enlarge the spaces between the staves? i want to write text
>> and expressions under or above each staff, but they overlap on each
>> other.
>> thanks and regards,
>> Saeed
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