[sib-access] Re: [Bulk] enlargement the spaces
- From: saeed Mirzazadeh <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:03:17 +0100
thanks. i have to ask my friends to do so for my scores.
be well,
Saeed
On 11/13/11, Farfar on Laptop <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You are presuming that he has Sibelius 6. He did not identify that he has
> it. Just 5.2.5.
>
>
> Is Sibelius 6 even available any more?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 16:56
> Subject: [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] enlargement the spaces
>
>
> Open the score in sibelius 6, and do the magnetic lay out.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of saeed Mirzazadeh
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:40 PM
> To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] enlargement the spaces
>
> Dear Dave,
> thank you so much for your kind help.
> another problem is when i put "expressions" or "tecnics" or "line"
> text or signs all together on one note, usually they overlap each
> other. this problem was not removed by enlarging the space of the
> staves. what do you and other friends advice?
> Warm Regards,
> Saeed
>
> On 11/12/11, Farfar on Laptop <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Saeed,
>>
>> One more bit of information from Dan Rugman talking about how to properly
>> position text in the title area...
>>
>> Manual Positioning of Text in the Title Area
>>
>> I must point out that there is a lot of approximation going on, and the
>> complexity of the thing should make it clear just how much room for error
>> there is. In short, get someone with eyes to do this, it's much easier.
>>
>> There are a lot of things to do and they're spread out across several
>> different dialogs. There is a certain logic to it, but it isn't
> immediately
>> apparent.
>>
>> 1. In the document set up dialog, move the top staff margin to make room
>> before you start.
>>
>> This is the distance between the top line of the top most staff and the
> top
>> page margin. Increasing it pushes the top staff down, and all the other
>> staves with it. It is measured in millimetres, inches, or points,
> depending
>> on which radio button you choose. For what you're about to do, it is best
> to
>> choose points. All will become clear. Before going on, set the top staff
>> margin to a far bigger number than is necessary. This will make sure that
>> you've got room to move everything around. You then reset it at the end to
>> move everything up into the ideal position. For now, set it to 144 points
> (2
>> inches).
>>
>> 2. Calculate the space height
>>
>> The positions of text items is stated as the number of spaces away from
> the
>> centre line of the staff. A space is the distance between two adjacent
> lines
>> on the staff. Since the staff height refers to a five line staff, which
> has
>> four spaces in it, the space height can be calculated by dividing the
> staff
>> height by 4. A typical space height is 5pt, this is with a staff height of
>> 20pt (7mm).
>>
>> 3. Vertically position the text items
>>
>> Tempo text has a default position of 3 spaces above the middle line. This
> is
>> set in the default positions dialog (not the edit text style dialog as you
>> might expect). If there is nothing above the top line of the top staff,
> this
>> will be fine. However, if there was a note of C6 (second line above), the
>> tempo text will need moving up to a higher position. A safe place would be
> 6
>> spaces away from the middle. You can do this by selecting the tempo text
> and
>> pressing Ctrl+UpArrow three times. Unfortunately, you will not be told the
>> vertical off-set because the properties is only displaying 0 in the y
>> coordinate box.
>>
>> 4. Top edge of text
>>
>> Before positioning the composers name you need to know where the top edge
> of
>> the tempo text is. You do this by converting the point size of the tempo
>> text font into line spaces and adding it to the vertical off-set of the
>> tempo text.
>>
>> The font size is found in the edit text style dialog. Select tempo and
> then
>> press edit. The first page of the dialog that opens shows the point size.
>> The first size box is for the full size and the second for the parts.
>>
>> If the space is 5pt and the font size is 13pt, the size in spaces is 13/5
> =
>> 2.6. So, the top of the tempo text is the vertical off-set + the height in
>> spaces. 6 + 2.6 = 8.6.
>>
>> Add a line space for good clearance and this gives you the vertical
> off-set
>> of the composer text. You can either change the default position or find
> the
>> existing default position and use the arrow keys to push it up to the new
>> position. In this case, 10 spaces should be safe.
>>
>> You now have to repeat the process for the title text. In brief.
>> (a) Composer text is 11pt. 11 / 5 == 2.2 spaces.
>> (b) Top of composer text is 10 + 2.2 = 12.2.
>> (c) Position title text at 13 spaces (0.8 spaces for clearance.
>>
>> 5. Fix the top staff margin.
>>
>> The top staff margin has to be set so that there is enough room for all of
>> the above. The title text was positioned at 13 spaces above the middle
> line.
>> This is 11 spaces above the top line of the top staff (2 spaces for the
>> fourth and fifth lines). However, the title text is 22pt (4.4 spaces) and
>> this needs to be considered. So finally, the top of the title is 11+4.4 =
>> 15.4 spaces above the top line of the top staff. For safety, let's call it
>> 16 spaces.
>>
>> The top staff margin is stated in points so we need to convert it. 16 *5 =
>> 80pt.
>>
>> If you think this looks like a lot, 80 pt is about 1.1 inches.
>>
>> Simple isn't it!
>>
>> Dan Rugman
>>
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:04
>> Subject: [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] enlargement the spaces
>>
>>
>> Dave,
>> i use Sibelius 5.2.5.
>> Saeed
>>
>> On 11/12/11, Farfar on Laptop <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> What version of Sibelius are you using?
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 03:41
>>> Subject: [Bulk] [sib-access] enlargement the spaces
>>>
>>>
>>> hi all.
>>> how can enlarge the spaces between the staves? i want to write text
>>> and expressions under or above each staff, but they overlap on each
>>> other.
>>> thanks and regards,
>>> Saeed
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