Dave, I see what's happening. When the system item dialog closes, the plug-in that describes items when you navigate hasn't had a chance to update yet. Pressing F5 not only describes the item but also gets the data it needs for the grave-accent key to work properly. This is easy to fix. In the mean time just make sure that you press F5 before pressing grave-accent. Dan Rugman visit the new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of Sibelius Access. www.musicaccess.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: 31 January 2010 16:10 To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Always Landing at the Beginning Dan, Okay, I get that part. Here's a scenario I still don't understand: 1. I use the system items list to go to a line First Ending system item in my score. 2. I use the select button. 4. Of course if I press tab here I'm back to the beginning, as you've said. 5. However if instead I press the grave accent key I'm also put back at the beginning of the score. 6. Not what I would expect. Only way I just found to make this work, is to press either the Enter key or f5 when I'm on that system item. Then a grave accent keypress will place me on the next staff item. I don't understand this fine distinction in behavior. In general, I'm not thrilled with the behavior of the Escape/Tab key combination. If there's any reason to seriously consider the following suggestion, then I would suggest: That hitting Tab after Escape should select either the system/staff item most recently selected, or at least the staff item nearest the most recent system item. If I need to go to the beginning of the score, I simply press Ctrl+Home, which would select the first staff item in the score. My reasoning is that when I'm working at a particular location of the score, I usually want to stay reasonably close to that location until I decide to jump somewhere else. I'm often frustrated by being dumped to the beginning when using the very common keystrokes Escape and Tab. Any hope for this? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Rugman" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 05:12 Subject: [sib-access] Re: Always Landing at the Beginning Dave, Pressing Tab should only take you back to the start when nothing is selected or when a system item is selected. Pressing Tab on a staff item should take you to the next note. Just to clarify, the text item itself should still be selected after you press Escape to stop editing it. So, when you've finished inputting or changing the text, you only need to press Escape once and then press Tab to get to the next note. If you press F5 after pressing Escape, you will be told what is selected. Do this next time before pressing Tab just to check that things are working as expected. Dan Rugman visit the new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of Sibelius Access. www.musicaccess.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: 31 January 2010 00:09 To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Always Landing at the Beginning Anyone else suffering from this? When I do any text editing on the staff, such as adding or editing a chord symbol, expression, etc. and I hit escape after the edit, a tab keystroke shows that I'm back at the beginning of the score. I find this irritating. I'd like to be where I was just after the edit. However I did learn that pressing the grave accent key (left of the #1 on the top row) does put you back after the edit. But I just don't remember this ever being an issue before, perhaps back in the Sib Speaking days. Anyone else seeing this behavior? Dave If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx