[SI-LIST] Re: usb eye pattern tuning

  • From: Li Hui <lihuizju@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mik.nazaryan@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:22:26 +0800

Hi Mik,
    Thanks for your advices, I'll check our power supply first to make sure 
whether it works or not. 
    Thanks again.
     B. R.
Mik Nazaryan <mik.nazaryan@xxxxxxxxx>编写:

>Hi  Li,
>I can only tell you my experience in USB2.0 compliance testing. We had 
>one product that also had problems with the USB compliance test (eye 
>diagram fail). So, I spent one week to recheck all the layout and could 
>not find anything wrong. Finally I just decided to add another 100nF cap 
>between power supply and GND. And this cap dramatically reduce the 
>errors in the eye diagram. Maybe the problem was related to the 
>chipset's power supply, but who knows, maybe it will help you as well.
>
>Mik.
>> Hi Experts:
>>      we are making a device which has an USB 2.0 port. This port is 
>> consisted of two part of traces, one is on the main board(about 100mm), the 
>> other one is a FPC(about 120mm) who has an micro usb receptacle on it. We 
>> are using a pair of connectors to connected them togother. Unfortunately 
>> during the USB compliance test, we find the rising and falling edges of the 
>> signal are too long which violated the test. We checked our layout, the 
>> differential trace impedance on main board is 87 ohms, and they are 
>> protected well which means they are surrounded by gound stearoly. FPC's 
>> impedance seems good too, little larger than 90 ohms. We changed the 
>> settings in processor such as slew rate, setup and hold time, and terminated 
>> impedance. But can't find a set of paraneters which could pass the test.
>>      So can any one help to give us some advices which can improve the 
>> signal quality? We know the shorter the length of trace can help, but the ID 
>> has been decided, it can't change now.
>>       Besr 
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